The Same Deep Water As You (16/54)

[haikuesque.livejournal.com]

The Same Deep Water As You
by solo____ & jo_lasalle
Pairing: Kamenashi Kazuya / Akanishi Jin
Rating: Explicit
Disclaimer: This is a work of fiction. Alternate Universe fiction. None of this is true.
Warnings: If there are any warnings for this story, you will find them here.
Summary: Kame's got his reasons for seeing prostitutes. Jin's got his reasons for being one. Life is pretty screwed up.
Notes: Story notes, acknowledgements and frantically reiterated disclaimers are here.

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Kamenashi is taking a while. Sure likes his bath long, likes to recover, dream up— stuff.
 

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[agustin1982.livejournal.com]

New updateeeeeeeeeeess~~~

Awkward moment between them~~~~ the tension really high, ne~~~

[haikuesque.livejournal.com]

High tension and a very long awkward moment. :-) Thank you, we're glad you're still enjoying!

[nightinbird.livejournal.com]

Kame still doesn't know what he wants, does he? I can't believe that now I'm pitying not only Jin, but him, too. Argh, those two are a complicated bunch! ;)

Now that Yuuya is also wary of Kamenashi, I wonder how that will affect future evenings at the lounge... And Jin, goood,I just want to cuddle him! Your Jin needs a lot of cuddling and love. ;_; I hope he'll get it eventually.

[haikuesque.livejournal.com]

Hee, a little bit of Kame co-pity is a good thing, seeing as he's a main character and all. Yay? *g* But yeah, he's having a hard time with his own mind here.

Jin and needing cuddles: you have no idea how right you are.

Thanks for this comment! Glad you, erm, enjoyed. :-)

[souleater-angel.livejournal.com]

claiming my spot cuz I'll get stupidly excited if I'm first.

[souleater-angel.livejournal.com]

"The spiders are eating each other and creeping him out, which is something else he doesn't need, so he flips channels some more, and hey, here's the weekly news roundup, must be half past eleven." --I liked this line for some reason. It's just Jin sitting there, trying not to think too much, trying to distract himself. Idk it was descriptive to the scene and I just liked it.

They kissed. I like it when they kiss. Really wish it could be under better circumstances.

Jin's constant little insinuations (or rather flat out statements) that Kame is not completely one hundred percent sane are quite funny honestly. "It's a serious business, pretending to be normal." That's great, made me crack a smile. Is it weird for me to feel so bad for Jin and find him utterly adorable at the same time..?

So Jin's never had a 'rest' before? I honestly find that a little surprising, I mean, have all these stupid men SEEN Jin?? Kame must actually be the ONLY sane one there Jin-kun... I suppose that refers to Jin's lack of social relation skills then.

Poor Jin is on a verge of a panic attack through this whole chapter. Kame really scares the crap out of him. I was seriously starting to wonder if he was just going to lose it and break down at any moment.

"'Not that it was like that, not exactly. They'd all taken their turn.' '...Not the same.'" ..... <---AS WHAT?
Good grief WHAT DID YOU TWO DO TO JIN?

I don't know if I missed it, I'm quite tired at the moment so it's very possible, but I didn't catch a reason as to why Jin originally changed his mind about going with Kame? He had planned to turn him down last time it was in his POV. The only real reason I could find was the money, over a months rent, and thirteen blow jobs he doesn't have to do. Which is good incentive, but Jin, well, Jin really DOESN'T like Kame...
Yeah that needs to change.
Jin. Kame. You two. Fix It.

btw I really liked how this chapter was longer than most others, so thanks for that. :]

[haikuesque.livejournal.com]

Idk it was descriptive to the scene and I just liked it.

Yay! Thank you for pointing out those details, it makes us really happy to know when something like that worked well.

Yes, sorry for the angsty kissing. They are just being very =:-|

Is it weird for me to feel so bad for Jin and find him utterly adorable at the same time..?

No, or only if we're bad too... oh. um. okay then. Hi thar, it's nice over here on the dark side!

LOL your observation about Jin and rests cracks us up. You'd think he'd be rolling in offers, yeah... but even at the club, rests are pretty uncommon in the first place; they're hellishly expensive, and most guys are just there to fuck, not to have long romantic evenings, and even if they did... well. It wouldn't be on their first date with an escort when they don't even know how hot someone is *in bed*, as opposed to their looks. And Jin generally has a problem with return custom -- you got it right with the social skills, he's... pretty but too often too unenthusiastic, really.

Poor Jin is on a verge of a panic attack through this whole chapter. Kame really scares the crap out of him. I was seriously starting to wonder if he was just going to lose it and break down at any moment.

This is where we say 'Yeah, poor Jin', and sekritly rub our dirty little hands in glee that that came across well.

Good grief WHAT DID YOU TWO DO TO JIN?

Us? We were not even there!!! as opposed to a bunch of other people

Um, yeah. Jin's got very special reasons for never ever wanting to go back on the street.

As for going with Kame: it was about Yuuya. Jin thought Kame was about to go off with Yuuya and, well, he kind of tried to avert that by, uh, volunteering himself. Poor guy. And then Kamenashi took Yuuya along anyway. Jin has a HARD LIFE. DD:

Jin. Kame. You two. Fix It.

We will! We promise!!! (Sometimes we giggle at ourselves, and how we ended up needing ALL THOSE WORDS to write them back to... well, you'll see! :-)

[shirayuki1582.livejournal.com]

As for going with Kame: it was about Yuuya. Jin thought Kame was about to go off with Yuuya and, well, he kind of tried to avert that by, uh, volunteering himself. Poor guy. And then Kamenashi took Yuuya along anyway. Jin has a HARD LIFE. DD:

oooooh! I never understood that until now either. thanks for clearing that up :D

[souleater-angel.livejournal.com]

"Good grief WHAT DID YOU TWO DO TO JIN?"
"Us? We were not even there!!! as opposed to a bunch of other people."
--AHHH YOU'RE BOTH AWFUL. Honestly people in this community do horrible things to Jin and Kame all the time, (andnotverywellhonestly) but THIS is going to be well written and all descriptive and horrible and real and you two may actually have the ability to make me cry. WHY AM I READING THIS?

Ahh okay I saw the Yuuya thing, I could tell Jin was a bit worried for him but since Yuuya seemed to be able to handle himself so well I thought there was another reason. Like I said I'm very tired. Jin's such a sweet guy ne, trying to protect Yuuya from the big awful insane Kamenashi.

You'd better fix it. I'm beyond curious as to where 'all those words' lead...

[haikuesque.livejournal.com]

You're totally right that Yuuya was handling himself well. It's all very ironical: Jin thought he could protect Yuuya when Yuuya would have been *much* better at handling Kamenashi by himself, and Kamenashi wouldn't have flipped out at him like he does at Jin anyway, only there's no way Jin can *know* that. Comedy of errors, if it didn't turn out so horrible for Jin. :/

I think torturing our characters is simply what we do, as fans. :-) But we promise you HAPPY LIVES for them eventually. :D

[natsukashi-yume.livejournal.com]

Apologies in advance for the ridiculously long comment, but you already know how I roll:

He's okay watching pop idols or whatever they are electrocute each other with office equipment. AWWWW, love the CTKT homage.. :D

It felt strange and delicious to read something progressing so slowly, deliberately, with so much thought put into each movement, but I suppose for Jin, that's his job and every touch really *is* that important to tell him whether he's doing a good job or not.

Jin holds his weight, weird and unsteady but he's not moving a blink, until Kamenashi's eyes close. His hands slip down to Jin's flanks, saying it's okay, settling him, and Jin hides his relief in a line of considered kisses. It's a testament to how fucked up a pair they are that I just read that and went AWWWWWWW.

The part where Jin doesn't know what Kame wants and his fingers wander *there*.. I'm wondering if maybe he didn't read Kame wrong but Kame just snapped out of his daze to realize and maybe he wouldn't have been averse to that. Role swapping is always interesting.

Fucking's harder *that* being fucked with the best of clients. Typo? ;)

Okay, only halfway and my brain has completely ceased to function.

Took a break, learned to breathe, back again.

"Let's not do it like that." "I don't need to hear..." I felt really bad for Kame here, because I think I know what he's asking for without trying to ask and oh Kame darling you're in the wrong kind of place for that. No wonder Jin is totally confused.

The way I'm reading Kame's lack of bite and criticism is he's not thinking of this as a professional transaction anymore. Something from the last encounter before he went into the bathroom seems to have snapped him back to the past and he's unsure and seeking affection instead of overthinking or criticizing or worrying. Or at least trying to make himself believe it's something like that. I can't be sure about Jin's assessment that maybe this is how Kame is with the other guys.. because he seems somewhat more vulnerable and out of sorts, and I don't seem him being this out of control with Tatsuya or even Kimura.

A frown on his face as he's chasing sensations, and his stomach tightens sharp and visible, over and over. Wow. That image.

Jin's outrage at Kame making conversation.. hahaha, poor bebe. Like Jin doesn't know his looks are what's kept him alive the last few years. ;_____;

When Jin starts thinking about all the money he just made.. err, does Kame have that kind of cash lying around or is he going to become some kind of tragic, bankrupt, lovelorn hero? Haha.

That was kind of nice of him, too. "Fuck." *cackles gleefully*

Hmm, there's still something I'm wondering about which I was hoping Jin would address in his thoughts this chapter. When Kame *ahem* prepared him and felt like Jin was being open and falling apart.. was that actually what happened and Jin is in denial or was Jin acting like a pro, giving Kame some competition? If the answer is to be revealed in the next few chapters, I can wait. :D

[haikuesque.livejournal.com]

Thanks for the typo alert, fixed now!!!

And we know how you roll and we love it. Comments -- no such thing as too long. (Take that, LJ!)

We are aware that things were moving especially slowly and detailed in this one, but it's really a matter of Jin's frame of mind, and Jin dealing with a client who is so easily insaneable *particular* about what he likes.

It's a testament to how fucked up a pair they are that I just read that and went AWWWWWWW.

Yes, hey, MAJOR FLUFF ALERT. *g*

Kame isn't entirely averse to switching -- though it's rare, as Ueda can attest to -- but it's kinda complicated for him, and, well, JIN is complicated. In this case, we think Jin was misinterpreting. (And with any other client, it really wouldn't have been a big deal, more like a 'oh, okay, gotcha now' moment.)

Something has definitely changed for Kame and yes, he's unsure; he doesn't really know what to *do* with Jin at this point. It might be going a bit too far to say that he's no longer seeing it as a professional thing or that he's looking for actual affection - he actually tries to be realistic about what these transactions are.

does Kame have that kind of cash lying around or is he going to become some kind of tragic, bankrupt, lovelorn hero? Haha.

We guess we will see? ;-) But for now, he can definitely afford it. He's not a Johnny's, he is simply a superstar, and he makes loads of money, more along the US model than the Japanese one. When he was still sleeping with Ueda and Kimura, he only booked rests, and saw thm every two or three weeks, so in that sense what he's spending on Jin so far is really a bargain.

As for your question regarding the last chapter: when Jin was still having sex for fun, prep was something he liked, it works well for him. Which is one reason he's just as glad most clients aren't into that. Which made it super extremely worse that Kamenashi hit on it as a part of some MINDFUCK. Because even with Kamenashi, he had a physical reaction to it, and then he had a reaction *to* that reaction -- he reacted enough he couldn't shut Kamenashi out, and given his job he *has* to be accommodating to some extent, which doesn't help at *all*; so he's caught between Kamenashi knowing all the buttons to push, and not being able or allowed to totally play dead fish; he gets less lost in ecstasy than he's lost in... not having the power to fight Kame and this whole thing anymore. He'd have such a small space anyway where he could give the client what the client is 'entitled' to and still maintain his own boundaries, and Kame has just wiped that all away very efficiently, and at some point Jin just gives up and lets Kame have whatever Kame wants because then at least at some point it will be over. Asking Kame to fuck him, when it comes, is basically about 'wanting the other thing to be over'; to that extent, he is asking for exactly what he really, really wants at that point.

[natsukashi-yume.livejournal.com]

Ohh, I liked the slow and detailed.. >.> Hey, I'll take the fluff where I can get it. :D

Thanks for the clarification on Kame.. it's hard to judge with his tone changing so much and having no insight into how much he's overthinking the situation or not.

Jin the bargain whore. D: ;____;

Okay, I think I get that Jin was overwhelmed a bit and just kind of gave in to get it over with quickly. I just wasn't sure if I interpreted his vulnerable moment correctly or not. Poor Jin. To have your boundaries muddled like that. It also makes me wonder if Kame ever tries muddling boundaries with the others.

Thanks for the clarification! :D

[shirayuki1582.livejournal.com]

Okay... first of all. I think you didn't link the new chapter to the website...? Usually the new chapter is up at 10 am (my time) and today it wasn't and I was HUH??? *panic* xDD I was kinda clever though and checked haikusociety and there it was :P phew.

Anyways.... the chapter. Actually I liked it a lot <3
Honestly I think that Jin's messy mind is a lot like mine and that confuses me a little but at the same time feels so familiar! :O
The spiders creeped me out cause I don't like them at all so I'm glad he changed he channel again xD

What I like in general is that they both started contemplating about that whole situation. Like, I think Kame slowly but surely realises that something needs to change because these games are nothing like him and it upsets him. And Jin also thinks later whether something he does is triggering that wole craziness. They are obviously thinking a lot about each other (yay!). That's a good thing from my POV but probably not of from their POV yet xD

If it wasn't for Jin's panic, the second half of the evening is actually really nice! When they sleep with each other...so calm and peaceful this time!! I always like when Kame touches Jin's thighs slightly or the seam of his trousers, dunno why. he did that in the lobby too. and also how he held Jin's hips. and then Jin kissing and exploring Kame's body was so intense! <3 I'm glad Jin notices how different it is, even though of course he won't be trusting yet.
I'm so relieved to see that they actually can behave like civilised people with each other and omg they even tried conversation! xD Thinking that they made such an effort to get to the point where they actually should have been on their first encounter ;)) But then there wouldn't be a story right. And now they made some progress! :D

Actually I loved Kame a lot more in this chapter. I wonder whether he truly realised things and almost feels shy/embarassed about it now? It just felt that way when he kept nestling with his water bottle or didn't know how to express himself, nervously wandered around before his food arrived and made much more of an effort to treat Jin better in the second half. Or did I just read that wrong...? I thought it was kinda cute.
I feel sorry for Jin though that he's always so panicked and freaked (not that I can blame him). I hope he'll get some love in the future and will step out a little from his dark corner.:))

Maybe he could mention that weather report.
"So," Kamenashi says, after another sip from his bottle. "Looks like the fine weather is holding."
Jin chokes on his own sip, his hand flying to his mouth in panic.
Is this because they had the same thought....?

I really like Junno <3 He seems so nice! And not stuck up or anything because he's part of the priviliged escorts. He seems so normal <3 And since I need to study these days too I was glad Junno is doing that too. Silly ne? ;))

It's really sweet how Jin is worried about Yuuya <3 I guess he's a bit like a younger brother for Jin.

"He'll wait. Let Kamenashi figure things out for himself, he'll deal, or he can just keep sitting here like a fucking museum piece while Kamenashi's fingers drift aimlessly over his face, and maybe the man will fall asleep."
Actually when I'm reading this fanfic I'm always very focused and alert (a bit like Jin) because we never know what happens next and it almost feels a little stressful ( in a good way) xD But then something like that comes up in the text and I seriously laugh out because it's hilarious!!!

At least Jin didn't have to fuck him. He gulps down the rest of his tea and tries not to shudder.
well.... it would be interesting though! *sparkly eyes* ;) maybe we'll live to see that happen in this fic? :))

It was good to have a calmer chapter after the last two!! Not that it was anything less powerful though! maybe even more so :))

And my comment is super incoherent and stupid and I feel like I couldn't really express my experience really...... sooorry!! :/

[shirayuki1582.livejournal.com]

And omg I just realised that next week's thursday is my exam (university)!!!!!! O.O *freaks out* I'm always so nervous about exams and of course that also means I can only read the next update a lot later than usual because I'll be sweating in the auditorium when you post! Keep fingers crossed for me pleeeease??


P.S. obviously, there's a character limit for comments :/ lol...

[haikuesque.livejournal.com]

Oooh, exams. We hope it goes well!

Junno says, "Ganbatte!"
Jin says, "Good luck!!"
Kamenashi says, "Do your job properly! Be a professional! Or else."

[haikuesque.livejournal.com]

Okay... first of all. I think you didn't link the new chapter to the website...?

Um, yes, we... had some admin issues this week and stuff didn't quite happen according to its usual schedule. Glad you managed to find it anyway! :-)

The spiders creeped me out cause I don't like them at all so I'm glad he changed he channel again xD

Jin doesn't like them either - that's why he watched them for a while, because he knew they'd stop him relaxing too much, with Kamenashi in the next room. :-D

They are obviously thinking a lot about each other (yay!). That's a good thing from my POV but probably not of from their POV yet xD

Not quite yet, but... well. As you noted, things are at least moving now.

If it wasn't for Jin's panic, the second half of the evening is actually really nice!

Isn't it! Nothing bad happens at all!! It's so... FLUFFY. ;-) Shame Jin can't appreciate it.

Thinking that they made such an effort to get to the point where they actually should have been on their first encounter ;-))

Yes! It's so ironical!

Actually I loved Kame a lot more in this chapter. I wonder whether he truly realised things and almost feels shy/embarassed about it now? It just felt that way when he kept nestling with his water bottle or didn't know how to express himself, nervously wandered around before his food arrived and made much more of an effort to treat Jin better in the second half. Or did I just read that wrong...?

No, you read that right. Kame's just had to re-evaluate everything he did with Jin, and he's quite insecure at this point. (And thank you for pointing that out, it's great to know that worked the way it was meant to.)

Maybe he could mention that weather report.
"So," Kamenashi says, after another sip from his bottle. "Looks like the fine weather is holding."
Jin chokes on his own sip, his hand flying to his mouth in panic.
Is this because they had the same thought....?

Well, the panic is because Jin is about to giggle hysterically, and yes, the hysterical giggling is because as soon as *he's* had a sarcastic thought about the weather, Kamenashi starts mentioning the weather. :-) If Jin were less on edge, he could fully appreciate that for once Kamenashi is just as helpless as he is at the conversation thing.

And since I need to study these days too I was glad Junno is doing that too. Silly ne? ;-))

Not silly, cool! Anything that motivates you is great. Junno would be very pleased to know it!

"He'll wait. Let Kamenashi figure things out for himself, he'll deal, or he can just keep sitting here like a fucking museum piece while Kamenashi's fingers drift aimlessly over his face, and maybe the man will fall asleep."
Actually when I'm reading this fanfic I'm always very focused and alert (a bit like Jin) because we never know what happens next and it almost feels a little stressful ( in a good way) xD But then something like that comes up in the text and I seriously laugh out because it's hilarious!!!

Ha ha we're so glad that worked. (Do you notice how we keep quoting almost your entire comments back at you? That's because we like them so much. *g*)

Thanks so much for this! It's always a joy to read your thoughts.

[silverrain184.livejournal.com]

OMG, Kame behaved humane...
I didn't quite expect what happened, I have to admit^^

Poor Jin was so confused by it, no wonder he didn't know what to do, not from the way he had to expect things to go, his paranoia was getting the best of him.

I loved the last scene with Yuuya, waking Jin up all worried.

I wonder how this changed things for the future. It seemed so much like Kame saw Jin in a different light, like he wanted to give Jin a chance to see him in a different way. What changed in his mind after the scene before he went to take a bath and what did he think about in the time he actually spend in the bath...
Of course I pray Kame sees/wants to see the person behind the label 'whore' but somehow that seems a little too easy (or am I just as paranoid?)

Aw, Jin's life is so miserable. Possible rape (?), abusive relationship (?) I'm dying to know more about it but don't want to at the same time that's a lie, of course I want to but I'm scared about the extend of devastation

The tension and anxiousness is killing me, I can't wait to see how it continues. Will we get to see more beyond the times of escort and client? It seems to progress so slow even though so much is happening but in the end it always feels like it's only just so small steps.
Well, most of it is thoughts so it feels like so much is going on even though it's always only a few hours of their life.
But in the end, what's going on inside people is more improtant than 'action' anyways.

Intense as always but even though I was sitting at the esge of my chair, tense and expecting the worst any second (just like Jin, I know, you so got me here!), thanks for sparing my organs twisting this time ;P

And this week was better, too, even though it's getting closer and closer to semester end^^

[haikuesque.livejournal.com]

I didn't quite expect what happened, I have to admit^^

Neither did Jin. (Neither did Kame, at the start of the night.)

We're glad you liked the scene with Yuuya. We are very fond of it, too, it's some much-needed fluff after all that angst.

Something definitely changed in Kame's mind, but it's a thing he needs to process first. Right now he hasn't even had a chance to start; he needs to get some alone time pronto!

Well, look on the bright side: Jin's life is already a lot better now than it was a year ago! Ootomo picking him up and employing him at the club was literally a lifesaver. (But we're taking your hint and not giving out additional spoilers. *g*)

They do have a lot of 'small step for them, huge word count for us' stuff going on; by now they're in so deep they need a lot of time to get to... other places, we guess. :-)

Hee, good thing your organs got a break this week, huh? Even if you were all tense. We would of course never want our readers to suffer along with Jin, no... *g*

And this week was better, too, even though it's getting closer and closer to semester end^^

Glad to hear things are easing up a bit! :D And good luck with finals and stuff! And thanks once again for the lovely comment. :DDD

[lady-aenea.livejournal.com]

Today I read at home @_@
Mika, the phone, refused stubbornly to let me read in the breaks between one hectic task and the other... and it was a good thing hehehe.
Am I the only one here that doesn't hate Kame? =/ Poor thing, I kind of get him (I also am horribly biased... )
Yuuya confused me though... am I *so* horribly biased I didn't notice anything *that* weir when there were 3 of them in the room? Is he worried for Jin beacuse of Kame or because Jin's attitude? I kind of thought it was the latter... but I'm not too sure...

I already want the next chapter!!!!

[haikuesque.livejournal.com]

Awww, Mika was having a bad day? We hope it recovers soon! (And sorry for the late-ish reply, we were both on the road.)

maybe a little bit biased? We are sometimes surprised people don't hate Kame more, hee. But that is helpful, actually!

And you do have a point re Yuuya... he would probably have taken everything that happened while he was around in stride, if Jin hadn't reacted badly. None of it was against the rules. But as it was, he did notice Kamenashi's really quite unfriendly tone towards and treatment of Jin, made worse by his realisation that Jin is really not on top of this.

Three more days! (Ha, the benefit of our belated answering is that we can say that!) Thank you for the comment, as always it is much appreciated!

[akamaru07.livejournal.com]

tension maxxxxx! moarrrrrr!!!

[haikuesque.livejournal.com]

moarrrr soooon. :D

[brindhakrishnan.livejournal.com]

Its interesting how Jin thinks. Very funny too!! I think I agree with Kame, Jin really does think quite alot. He does stares blankly quite abit in the presence of Kame and when he isn't, he's cursing Kame in his head or out loud. lol xD And his thought process of Kame is just too amusing. When I read this, "Jin knows enough about Kimura at least to know that. Maybe it says something about him, maybe...Did he do something?Or is this another midlife crisis, Jin landed smack in the middle of it, " I bursted out laughing. Why do you over analyse Jin??? But this is probably because of how meanie Kame treated him in the past. So he's excused.

And he tells Junno this?? "I don't think he likes me," -->Quite the opposite and someone should really tell Jin that.

So Kame is still a very awkward job for Jin? (Poor boy, though he was hungry, he declined to eat with Kame.) Hopefully Jin reduces his mental curses of Kame gradually.

Thanks for sharing this!!~~

[haikuesque.livejournal.com]

Well, there's a lot for Jin to think about. :-) Like how to make sure the crazy guy doesn't flip his lid again. Yeah. And to figure out wtf is actually going on. You're right though, it might be better if he could just turn the thoughts off and decide none of this bothers him.

Junno... well, he asked? Or sort of. It might help Jin if he talked to *more* people about this... not that that's his style, really. But Junno is harmless and nice. :-)

Thank you for commenting!