The Same Deep Water As You (25/54)

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The Same Deep Water As You
by solo____ & jo_lasalle
Pairing: Kamenashi Kazuya / Akanishi Jin
Rating: Explicit
Disclaimer: This is a work of fiction. Alternate Universe fiction. None of this is true.
Warnings: If there are any warnings for this story, you will find them here.
Summary: Kame's got his reasons for seeing prostitutes. Jin's got his reasons for being one. Life is pretty screwed up.
Notes: Story notes, acknowledgements and frantically reiterated disclaimers are here.

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It went fine, he writes on the back of an envelope from the bank. Pretty basic.
 

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[ladyc2]

Ahhh so Kame was crying and Jin flashed back to his gang rape at the park. And I'm glad he took the time off to deal with it a bit.

Yuuya visiting with soup was lovely and being all concerned and trying to talk him out of seeing Kame again. And Pi's text made me laugh lol!

[haikuesque.livejournal.com]

LOL we love your very efficient summary!

We're glad you liked the Yuuya interlude, and that Pi is providing amusement. :-) We guess it was a bit of a breather chapter for the reader, too, what with Jin recouping. Thanks for letting us know you enjoyed it!

[ladyc2]

Yes, definitely a breather chapter. Which is good - Jin needed it (something tells me Kame probably isn't coping quite as well).

[souleater-angel.livejournal.com]

There! See it?! Kame is KAME now, not Kamenashi; after all that happened that night...

"...and when he slowly drops Kame's t-shirt on top of his boxers he has a moment where he thinks maybe he's not so okay after all because he wants to keep it, he wants to... not to wear but... because."

..."But he's glad Kame ate something and has a sugar boost for the way home.

Kame will be okay, too. Maybe also tomorrow."-- SEE?! *jumps around*

Things have changed so much. Only a short while ago Jin would have jumped at anything that even remotely made Kame seem a little mentally unstable, not he practically IS mentally unstable, and did.... that... and now Jin is covering for him and protecting him and...Jin's even wondering if he actually helped him.

Jin's so confused himself, like he can't decide what to think of Kame anymore. He can't even figure himself out, why he actually offered THAT, aside from Kame apparently looking so bad he was 'crying.' No one can stand the sight of a crying Kame... (one of the reasons I will never be able to watch 'Yuuki'...)

I'd write a more detailed comment but school starts up again for me today so I have limited time. This was a nice chapter to start the day out with. Great job as always.

[haikuesque.livejournal.com]

Yes, yes, we believe you. ;-) It's Kame and something's changed. Also we love your enthusiasm. It made us very happy! We might have jumped around too >_> (And hey, at last some pay-off for the angst; it's not like we don't try to deliver. *g*)

Only a short while ago Jin would have jumped at anything that even remotely made Kame seem a little mentally unstable, now he practically IS mentally unstable, and did.... that... and now Jin is covering for him and protecting him and...Jin's even wondering if he actually helped him.

Yeah, it's kind of... complicated. >.< Oh Jin...

He knows why his brain went there, though he's a little WTF at himself for not stopping himself/realising this wasn't such a great idea, never mind with this Kame guy. But he really wasn't thinking very... thoroughly. No time, with Kame crying.

Thanks for the feedback, it is much loved as always! Good luck with school, we hope it will be fun and not too exhausting!

[http://users.livejournal.com/___clash/]

There's so much cute, so much sweet in this chapter I'm just going to read it again before I comment because maybe I needed that, after, um. That. Yeah. Articulate.(T.T)

[http://users.livejournal.com/___clash/]

I have returned!

So.

It's Kame now, is it? (^^) Good, good. Very good indeed. Can't say they haven't come a long way, those two.

I love how Jin is always so warm, so grateful for every little thing anyone does for him... Even when it comes from his friends -coworkers, whatever- and should be obvious and expected. It's sad, wrong, maybe, but so cute, and of course he'd want to keep Kame's shirt. The hopeless sap. And the way he keeps reminding himself that things are good now, and not like then, not like they could be... That's good, too. But. Then Kame cries, and Jin just... gives. (T.T) I sometimes suspect your Jin is secretly fluffy and cuddly and quite possibly made of cotton candy inside! D:

And he's so broken in this chapter... But determined, and working, getting there -at his own pace, but he's not giving up-, and I like that about your Jin too. That he's full of contrasts, somehow. Like Kame. Only different. Easier, maybe? Or not. And he is dealing just fine, considering... right?

"But he still knew what to do; at least someone did."

I laughed so hard at that. Really. They're both so far beyond keeping any semblance of control at this point. That was just- Oh Jin, if only you knew... (^^)

And Tego... Tego is beyond cute. All soft words and worry and trying so hard to tell Jin that he's not alone, that he'll listen, cares. I liked this character before, because it fit really well in this story -also it's kind of, look at the real thing, I mean, I could picture that, okay? Scary thought. But! Here, he was just. He's there. And he's caring and supportive even though he has no real reason to be, hasn't known Jin all that long anyway, but still brings him homemade miso soup and -oh god, was that some kind of pun?!- it just figures that Jin wouldn't bother to cook for himself...

"Worth keeping in mind that the guy can be an asshole"

Somehow I can't picture that happening right now, though. Then again, who knows? Kame seems to be full of surprises here D: But he definitely didn't seem particulary proud of himself last time, now why would that be... Good to see Jin try, though, because with all the Kame says, Kame thinks, Kame does it kind of looks like he's falling hard and fast from where I'm standing. But that might just be me. And wishful thinking. It happens. (^^)

TL;DR? This chapter makes me grin like an idiot, okay? D:

[haikuesque.livejournal.com]

I have returned!

We rejoice!

I love how Jin is always so warm, so grateful for every little thing anyone does for him...

Wow, that is a neat observation. We hadn't really thought of it in those terms, like, we hadn't conceptualized it as such, but yeah, the way we've got his backstory in our heads, he's not really used to people doing stuff for him just to be nice. Just like that. He's more used to being looked down on, or used. So yeah, excellent point!

I sometimes suspect your Jin is secretly fluffy and cuddly and quite possibly made of cotton candy inside! D:

But... but... but he's a big manly man who crushes beer cans in one hand and never ever talks about his feelings... ur so rong!

*cough* You may be on to us. And our Jin.

He's also a pretty tough cookie in some respects, really, only he never looks it. He's not stoic-brave at all, but he's very brave in his own way, when it counts. In a muddling-through kind of way.

Yeah, if Jin knew how out of it Kame really was... he'd want to cuddle him and wrap him up and protect him from the evil world, which would be so fucked up, we don't have words, so it's just as well he doesn't know. :-)

Glad you like Tego! And OF COURSE the miso soup was... intentional. He got the recipe from MASSU who got it from his MOM, come on! ;-) (In other words, well spotted. *g*)

Good to see Jin try, though, because with all the Kame says, Kame thinks, Kame does it kind of looks like he's falling hard and fast from where I'm standing.

Jin... is aware of what's going on with him and he's trying to get his brain to save him from himself. Because he knows how stupid he's being, or about to be, or has been, who knows these days.

We're really, really glad you liked it!

[akamaru07.livejournal.com]

Jin is bothered. Good progress. I'm glad :DDD

[haikuesque.livejournal.com]

Jin is bothered by more than one thing. Even more progress! ;-)

[natsukashi-yume.livejournal.com]

Oh my. What is this "gang"... I remember a mention of it before but wow these two have some scary skeletons in their closets. At least Jin admits to himself that what he offered was kind of crazy. It hurts to see him so shaken up, but at the same time it might be helping him get over the previous trauma of a similar incident involving mud and ropes because it *might* hopefully get overwritten by how Kame was distraught and helped him clean up and treated him carefully. I'm glad we get Jin's perspective of how bad it felt to see Kame cry, and it's to his credit that it effects him that deeply.

I loved the whole Jin and Yuuya interaction... outside the club where everything seems a bit more genuine, a bit more real. Last names and miso soup and sitting on barely used furniture and.. just a nice, normal, domestic picture.

It's telling how far Jin has come because now he's going out of his way to make sure Ootomo doesn't suspect anything off about Kame, even though there *is* something off about him. It'll be interesting to see what else about Kame Jin starts keeping a secret.

posted this on the akame ff site before cause I'm an idiot like that...

[haikuesque.livejournal.com]

The "gang"... just some guys really. Jin can tell you the rest. Or has told. :-/ Yeah, they're both pretty damaged in different ways, and that was the problem, they were each pushing each other's buttons without knowing it or without being able to help it.

It definitely made a difference that Kame tried to help after - Jin never expected that. (But then he didn't expect himself to get all PTSD-d out, either.) We love your theory of stuff being 'overwritten'; not sure it's totally what happens in this case, but Kame's actions definitely are helpful, Jin comes out of the, erm, experience with a totally different feeling. It certainly changes how he relates to all the previous Kamenashi trauma... (He didn't expect Kame to do anything like this at all, the helpfulness and stuff; that whole thing could have gone way differently and Kame wouldn't even have needed to be an asshole for it, just 'following through'...)

Yuuya is turning into one of the few people Jin meets 'outside', and who can cross the boundary. We picture him so bubbly and exuberant that Jin simply can't resist. *g*

What other secrets of Kame's Jin will keep? Hmmm, you'll see. :-)

Thank you for this lovely comment.

[brindhakrishnan.livejournal.com]

Aww...Jin's opinion of Kame has changed. Its turn from Kamenashi to Kame!! ♥

You know that whole description of how Jin put his clothes for wash was so detailed, I could totally picture it in my head. And its still kind of sad that Jin went through that. I still feel so bad for him.

I still don't think Jin is still very comfortable with Kame. But I think there seems to be an understanding or acceptance by Jin with starting to defend Kame alittle in his head... And Yuya is super cute, cooking soup for Jin though he doesn't cook often.

There seems to be much more to Jin that meets the eye. Why piss and not being slapped or punched? What is with the gang story??? I get that Kame had an outburst but Jin's choice of actions make me alittle confused. And "And nobody can ever make Jin do that again and he won't have to explain himself", he's said this twice now or something similar anyways. He doesn't do that, being pissed on normally. Has Jin been pissed on before or something..

Hmm....maybe its just me thinking too much about this? Well either way, Jin is really truly nice. Its so hard for me to hate either one of them and pick a stand now. I shall wait and see what comes out. Thanks for sharing and till next week!!~~ ^^

[haikuesque.livejournal.com]

Heee! Don't say there wasn't some fluff waiting after all that angst! Even if it was... slightly unusual fluff. *g*

And thank you for the comments on the writing. There's not a lot happening in terms of action in this chapter, so it's great to hear the aftermath in Jin's apartment was vivid and interesting.

And Yuya is super cute, cooking soup for Jin though he doesn't cook often.

He's a good friend! We're glad you like him!

As for your wondering... Jin has a history of things happening he doesn't really want to happen, to put it cautiously. And when he was thinking, 'oh god Kame is crying, what can I doooooo...' and he hit the part where Kame always enjoyed humiliating him, he, well, got the idea from somewhere. >.< (He now kind of wishes he'd thought just a little longer and realised he might not be able to handle it.)

You are definitely not thinking about this too much! In our opinion, which is biased, of course; we're very pleased you find the story intriguing enough to think so much about stuff.

Hee, and we can only be happy that you can't hate either of them now. What with over 20 chapters left to go and all...

Thank you very much for commenting again, it's a pleasure to read what you made of it!

[lady-aenea.livejournal.com]

*_* They're Jin and Kame now
T_T <--- tears of joy

This chapter finally put them both on the same afection level for me. I have been stubbornly defending Kame till now, because I kind of get him and because I am an horribly horrybly biased fan (and proud of it too), and although I didn't exactly disliked Jin I... felt he needed a little less caring about? xD (oh gosh, now I take *sides* xD in a fic... XD). I felt Jin was dealing a little bit better with everything because, although he came from a very dark place in his life, he now had *hope* and people who really know him, even if they didn't quite know details of his past.

But now, altough he still have plans and dreams for a better future (whereas Kame just survives his life), he began caring for Kame (reluctantly and maybe a little bit against his better judgement, but inevitably as well)... and that made me love him.

*_*

As always, thaks for sharing this

[haikuesque.livejournal.com]

Heee, yes, they kind of are. You know, once you've had freebie golden showers with each other, it would be weird to stand on ceremony... ;-)

We love to hear you like them both equally now. For one thing, it's a relief that Kame didn't lose you, since he hasn't exactly been showing himself from his best side here. For another, we're very democratic in our affections too, so we can only support this! ;-)

It's funny, the way Jin's way of coping makes him feel more together than Kame, isn't it? We do think Jin could have done with some hugs, but you're right that he has *hope*, which Kame doesn't, and that's kind of a big deal.

We hope you'll enjoy their future developments, now that things are... a little bit different. Just a little. *g*

[baka-lolli.livejournal.com]

OMG congratulations for making me speechless and totally incoherent. @_@



Actually I show up so late because I had to finish an important assignment and only wanted to read the last two chapters when I was done completely.
After reading them both now I'm glad for this decision because especially after what happened in chapter 24 I'm not sure if I would have been able to concentrate anymore. *lol*

My brain is twirling so much right now I don't even know where to start.

In the first chapter there was Kame and he looked so tired and drained and nothing didn't matter anymore and it hurt to see him like this when he's usually such a perfectionist and then came Jin and I was so glad he didn't say anything sarcastic this time despite Kame's state and the whole place and then he really apologized and I just thought how awesome this guy is but in Kame's head everything got more and more confused and he didn't even realize how terrible messed up he must look like to Jin.

And then Jin offered THIS and I swear I didn't move for like 10 secs and just stared at my screen. My mind was so shocked for a short moment that I really thought I had mis-read it and he actually meant cumming like what Kame did to him before but when I read further I realized he meant it like he'd said it and I tried not to imagine too much about it esp not the smell. >.<
To think that this offer came from Jin who was so sure of his current rights and not scared anymore and then even provoking Kame to do it by calling his first name was such a surprise and made me wonder what the hell was he thinking. XD I thought maybe he had found a book in the library which was called "how to make insane people sane again" and one of the sections was suggesting this method. *lol*

But then it seems like Kame finally snapped out of his nightmare right into the even crueler reality and realized what he had done. And even though I should be disgusted by him for what he'd done I was so amazed by the Kame character that followed. *o* I even tried to remember when was the last time Kame was like this and then noticed he was probably never like this to anyone before. It felt like we were getting a peek into his true personality and not one of his millions of facades he puts up for everyone else around him.
I was so glad about it and also when he drove Jin home and it was quiet in the car it didn't felt awkward for the first time at least not like before and then Jin suddenly opened up as well and talked about it and when Kame's stomach suddenly growled and Jin offered him his peanut bar I almost cracked up because this was so random and sweet at the same time and after all they went through on that day it just felt funny but it also felt like going into a new direction.

I don't know why so many strange things happen to them but maybe it has to in order to deepen whatever is growing between them. I just hope for both that this was the lowest point.
Because I'm afraid Kame won't survive any crazier stuff from himself *worries* ;_;

Okay time passed faster than expected and I have to go to work now but I'll be back again tonight to comment on Jin's POV chapter too so can't thank you enough for writing all this crazy but amazing stuff that never fails to intrigue me. <3

[baka-lolli.livejournal.com]

Oh damn I fell asleep last night so I'm back now.

Re-reading the previous comment I guess my mind was pretty much confused like Kame's so you did a really good job in projecting the reader in their respective heads.

Jin's POV chapter was a nice one, kind of calm even though he's still highly distracted by all the events that happened. It was especially cute how he tried hard to concentrate on playing the guitar but failed miserably cause his thoughts are still on Kame and what they did.
He's such an amazing character for still keeping it together after all and now he even starts to defend Kame which so reminds me of Naoki and that Jin was also defending the guy even though he was the reason why Jin is leading his current life.
His heart is really too big for his own good. *hugs him*

I'm glad he took a day off and that Ootomo let him. I don't think he wasn't suspicious but since Yuya wanted to go to visit Jin it seemed okay. Yuya is so adorable X3 I like it a lot that he worries so much about him. It's good that Jin has people like Yuya and Tomo in his life now. It's a nice balance to the slowly increasing craziness in his heart. ;)

Another two chapters that blew me away. haha
So looking forward to the next one. <3

[haikuesque.livejournal.com]

And now you've made us extra happy by drawing the parallel between Jin defending Naoki and Jin making allowances for Kame! To us, it's an important aspect of his character that he... is maybe a little too soft on some people.

He's working really hard to keep it together. The way Kame acted afterwards helps. But yeah, the guitar... that's not really working yet. :-) Too much on his mind.

Ootomo may have suspected a little bit, yeah... he's not actually a bad manager even though he has some annoying peculiarities. He was probably glad that Yuuya wanted to go out there.

Jin? Crazy? NEVER! ;-) Everyone in this story is 100% sane. Trufax.

[haikuesque.livejournal.com]

Hey there! We're glad we didn't interfere with your assignment - hope it went well!

We love your theory about the library book! In amongst all the Harry Potter and information on how to get an apprenticeship, Jin gets out a book that recommends Golden Showers for the treatment of insane clients. ;-) You're totally right that Jin was coming from a place where he knew his own rights and wasn't scared; that's the only way it could happen, really.

And it was useful for stripping Kame's facades away, true. Not what Jin would have expected, but maybe a better outcome than what he did expect.

We're really happy the car scene worked! To us, that's kind of... fluff. Pretty fucked up fluff, granted, but still. *g*

It's great to hear from you again and we're evilly proud of having made you incoherent. ;p

We really love your comments and we're very bouncy appreciative that you're letting us know how things read to you. It's so awesome to read that as authors, you have no idea. ♥