The Same Deep Water As You (33/54)
Oct. 20th, 2011 08:18 am
The Same Deep Water As You
by
Pairing: Kamenashi Kazuya / Akanishi Jin
Rating: Explicit
Disclaimer: This is a work of fiction. Alternate Universe fiction. None of this is true.
Warnings: If there are any warnings for this story, you will find them here.
Summary: Kame's got his reasons for seeing prostitutes. Jin's got his reasons for being one. Life is pretty screwed up.
Notes: Story notes, acknowledgements and frantically reiterated disclaimers are here.
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Jin makes an innocent face. 'I'm just checking you out.'
'I se-- What?'
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Date: 2011-10-20 12:37 pm (UTC)They, uh, seem to be having a lot of those lately. Makes me all weepy with joy - no really, it's sad how happy that makes me. Sad.
Anyway, I've lost count of how many times you've stressed the fact that Jin doesn't do that - well, tries not to anyway, he's full of fail when it comes to doing the whole cold and expressionless impression, (but that's not the point here). He's thought so much about that! About how it's all an act with clients, how it's not the real him and he doesn't tell them - doesn't want them to know - that kind of stuff. He's thought that often enough for it to sound like he's trying really hard to make himself believe it, (and that's not the point either. WTF).
The point is he's breaking his own rules! He's not doing that around Kame - and it's not the first time either, but the times before felt more like isolated moment whereas here he's just... himself. All through it. That seems important, somehow, and I really hope it pans out for him because that backfiring... Maybe it's just me, but I believe that could hurt so much worse than everything else, everything before.
On a different note, dark-haired Kame! :D I love that look! And, WHAT'S UP WITH JIN AND HIS HAIR?! OMG. That panicky feeling one gets when they feel like they've missed something important. That.
Jin makes a very good point about cab drivers! :O I might have thought something along those lines at some point. Not quite as dramatic, but yeah. The thought of them watching 'guy movies' over beers made me smile like crazy, and I love how Jin's actually looking forward to his dates with Kame. And the rib count scene! And then I went all teary eyed again, all that cuteness...
And, "Kame's smile is real now, and like they found the perfect solution together." Does he even realize just how SMITTEN he is?! D:
The sex, too, seemed so different between them with Jin actually taking the lead. That was incredibly cute and felt like another milestone of sorts! (^^)
And that line near the end: "He'd be a great lover with someone real." It kind of sucks for Jin that he has to be aware of these things - but then again, I guess he'd be in big trouble if he weren't...
Now I'm going to click 'submit' and let you guys deal with that huge wall of text up there because, at the moment, I'm too sleepy to read through it and see what I've actually written :'D
Good luck! :D
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Date: 2011-10-21 04:00 pm (UTC)Things have changed so much between them now that Kame's perceptiveness is working for Jin
That is a really good observation! Kame can apply his powers for good and evil, and they're considerable powers. *g*
What you're saying about Jin telling Kame the truth is, um, true (NPI), and you're right that it's quite meaningful, particularly when it's either kind of private to himself, or critical of the client.. Jin is not very good at lying and pretending, so usually his default with clients is just to shut down. Not so much happening here now. Kame can be proud of himself!
Really-moving-forward slash no-turning-back kind of moment.
Hee. Yeah. They've come a long way and surprised themselves (and each other) more than once.
Makes me all weepy with joy - no really, it's sad how happy that makes me. Sad.
Nooooooooo we like your tears. ha ha ha. <3
We love dark-haired Kame too. :-) As for Jin, oh, nothing much, only it's hassle to keep his hair looking stylish/styled, and he is kind of lazy normally (and maybe resents having to do it up just because that ties in with the whole escort thing), so if he does make an effort and then it gets all damp and bleah again, he's annoyed.
Yeah, Jin can't really afford to lose sight of what they really are to each other. He's got to be realistic... at least that's another thing he keeps telling himself.
Thank you for the wall of text, we appreciate it greatly!
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Date: 2011-10-21 04:14 pm (UTC)And not something else I missed when I wasn't paying proper attention or something...Anyway, thanks for clearing that up! (^^)(no subject)
Date: 2011-10-20 03:41 pm (UTC)Soooooooooo good! <3
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Date: 2011-10-20 05:29 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2011-10-21 04:00 pm (UTC)Our apologies. We hope you find (found?) some relief. :p
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Date: 2011-10-20 03:45 pm (UTC)This was such an unfair chapter.. from the beginning almost to the end it just seemed like they were two guys in the nervous, flushed stages of a relationship rather than anything else. It wasn't hard to forget the deeper context of it, with all the casual movie watching and cuddling and slow, languorous pace. I think it's also the first time we've seen Kame so vulnerable and trusting, just kind of letting go. I liked this more confident Jin, not quite a role reversal but something on a more equal footing.
It was also just really really really hot. *hides*
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Date: 2011-10-21 04:02 pm (UTC)It wasn't hard to forget the deeper context of it, with all the casual movie watching and cuddling and slow, languorous pace.
:-) yeah. They both try not to forget the wider context too much, but they are doing things that... well, they themselves wouldn't necessarily expect.
hahahah *pleased*
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Date: 2011-10-20 04:03 pm (UTC)I had a really crappy day and you just saved me from it. Thank you! :)
Love,
June
P.S. That's a sweet and spicy chapter! Oh yeah Jin, I've been looking forward to this all week too! XDDD
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Date: 2011-10-21 04:08 pm (UTC)can work for world peacehas some redeeming value. :-) Thanks for letting us know, and we're really glad we could help you out on a sucky day!PS: Sweet 'n spicy yay!
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Date: 2011-10-20 05:27 pm (UTC)Love it! Well, I can´t remember which I didn´t.. xD
Would like to give you proper comment on every chapter, but I suck at it.. literally.. ehm.. :)
So all I can do is to thank you both for another piece of this great story.
*offers cookies*
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Date: 2011-10-21 04:08 pm (UTC)Glad you liked the chapter - yes, they've become quite fluffy, haven't they. Thank you for telling us it worked!
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Date: 2011-10-20 06:06 pm (UTC)I just felt like I had to tell you that this is really fantastic! In my opinion it's well written, well paced, the characters are interesting and I'm deadly curious about how this is going to end.
Thanks for writing this golden nugget!
Maybe I should comment the chapter as well... Okay, I'd be really happy if this was some sort of uncomplicated relationship drama, but it isn't. When they make progress in their "realationship" like this it damn near breaks my heart. Kame loves his work he kinda' has to return to it and his wife no matter what. So they can't really be more then what they are, client and provider of services. So every time they get closer I feel the heart break before it has even happened.
What's this ramble? I don't know, it got out of my hands :P
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Date: 2011-10-21 04:13 pm (UTC)We sucked you in, ha ha!And we hope that it'll continue to be interesting and you continue to be curious.You're right about the problems of Kame's life and work situation not really being something that'll just go away. :-|
we apologize for all the heartbreak.Only not really.Thank you for the feedback! ♥
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Date: 2011-10-20 11:10 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2011-10-25 08:42 pm (UTC)Sorry to make you wait! We are currently very glad for the time gap though, because we are only just keeping up with the editing as it is. :-(
We appreciate the feedback a LOT though, so thank you. :-)
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Date: 2011-10-20 11:20 pm (UTC)Loved the rib counting, Jin getting worked up about Kame spending money on him, Jin liking Kame's new hair and Jin wanting to watch Kame's movies/drama's (construction guy!Kame - I wouldn't mind watching that either :D )
Excellent as usual.
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Date: 2011-10-25 08:42 pm (UTC)Thank you for letting us know what you liked. Yeah, we quite fancy construction!guy Kame, too. (Authors' wish fulfilment, ahoy!)
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Date: 2011-10-21 04:16 am (UTC)Jin leans back as much as he can without slumping. He's been looking forward to this all week.'--And so have I, Jin. ^_^
I could relate well to Jin's attitude toward the weather in this chapter; it's the same where I am now, rainy, windy, cold, (no snow yet thank goodness), and picturing Jin trudging through it and complaining about his hair was so cute. And Kame's "mountains of fat." and Jin 'checking Kame out' XD. That's great.
I'm glad they had at least a small conversation about money as well. It is forcing them to find out a little bit more about each other's lives and opinions.
Although, it does make me wonder; since Kame regularly spends such vast sums of money on Jin, and the club in general, (and many various movies apparently), does his wife not notice anything at all? Do they have separate bank accounts or..what? It seems like she would eventually notice that Kame regularly spends, um, a lot of money, and ask a few questions at least. Especially since I know it's a fairly common custom in Japan for the wife to handle the finances and give the husband his 'allowance.'
Kame seems to finally be unwinding a little with Jin. Finally realising that things are really okay when Jin says it's okay. They're both just... so, cute, together. I'm so glad they're being honest with each other. They've come so far from what they used to be. If Will Smith can marry a stripper, Kame can date a whore, only hopefully then not a whore.. whatever. He and Jin need to be together.
I'm pretty sure I wanted to say something else but I'm too tired to remember it. Oh well, if I think of it, the worst that can happen is what, commenting again? XD.
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Date: 2011-10-25 08:46 pm (UTC)You ask a good question about their finances and Midori finding out! Luckily (ha) for Kame, Midori doesn't really check Kame's bank account, it's not like one of those stereotypical Japanese marriages. (She's got a career too, and better things to do, mostly.) Kame has an accountant. In addition, Kame is a pretty big spender in terms of clothes and sometimes real estate, so that the whore money is... well, he might also have bought another couple of Prada jackets. Who's going to ask.
He and Jin definitely need to be together. But... life is difficult. :-)
Thank you for this! <3
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Date: 2011-10-26 03:08 am (UTC)....wouldn't the accountant find out then...? What does his little club expenses show up as in his financial statements? And the fact that it's regular large charges, unless he regularly buys Prada...I'm sorry for asking this again but you've got me thinking all paranoid like Kame must be about things like this, as well as the fact that most writers wouldn't bother to think of details like this but you two seem always seem to have the answers, so now you've got me curious. Feel free to tell me to shrug it off though ;]
Yes they do need to be together and I'm trusting you two to make that happen so don't let life be too difficult or angsty or tramatic and DON'T LET ME DOWN.
....please....
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Date: 2011-10-30 06:37 pm (UTC)As long as the books balance and the income and outgoing is all, uh, accounted for, the accountant is happy. What the credit card statements mean and what exactly Kame did with those people isn't something he asks about. (And professionally speaking, couldn't disclose anyway.)
Also, we figure more rich guys have things like girlfriends on the side or expensive call girls or Champagne bottles for ten thousand dollars brought up from the Titanic, so I'm sure an accountant who does the books for famous people has basically Seen It All, and wouldn't blink at Kame's harmless and responsible hobbies.
Is what we figured. :-)
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Date: 2011-10-21 10:38 am (UTC)I love how their meetings turning out to be the bright points of their week and how they're both looking forward to it. That confession was such a genuine moment. :)
Finally Kame is letting go a bit and allowing himself to enjoy the moment without over-thinking the situation and showing Jin that he's as atentive to his needs and wants as Jin is.
I wonder when will they realise that they'd crossed the lines of escort and client.(..When Kame will use an adj. other then nice, maybe? ;))
"It's unfamiliar, not like when he curls up against Kame and Kame does all the holding. Maybe he should do more with it, feel more in charge." Aw Jin, but you are..
It's interesting how Jin is concerened about how much money Kame is spending on their dates (which is so sweet of him), instead of feeling flattered or something and how it's always mantioned.. Should I worry and get this as a sign for Kame's financial future? XD
Actually what I really want is for Kame to use Jin's number and call him and ask for a date. Preferably One that does not include booking and paying ridiculous amount of money for. Yeah.
Lovely chapter!
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Date: 2011-10-25 08:46 pm (UTC)We really like the things you took away from this chapter, about Kame and the way they're getting closer (and closer to certain lines, yeah). We enjoyed Kame being a bit more relaxed, too, after the poor guy was wound so tightly all the time.
Jin... has a perhaps overdeveloped appreciation for what money is worth, so his POV isn't maybe the best judge of how risky Kame's spending choices are. At the moment, Kame is in no danger of having to sleep on the street. *g*
Actually what I really want is for Kame to use Jin's number and call him and ask for a date. Preferably One that does not include booking and paying ridiculous amount of money for. Yeah.
Wouldn't it be sweet? But then they'd have to Ask Themselves Questions and all that complicated stuff. ;-) And also, it might just conceivably lose Jin his job, because if Ootomo is paranoid about anything, it's about whores having unscheduled dates with clients where the club doesn't get its 'cut'. :/
Thank you very much for this lovely comment, it made us very happy!
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Date: 2011-10-21 01:30 pm (UTC)Extra thanks or sharing this one!~~ Its so warm and nice. <3 :) See you next week. <3
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Date: 2011-10-25 08:53 pm (UTC)Warm and nice, hee. :-) That's good. Thank you!
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Date: 2011-10-21 04:48 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2011-10-21 06:38 pm (UTC)Ha ha so that's what it takes to get you to comment here...:D(no subject)
Date: 2011-10-26 04:59 am (UTC)This might be my favorite chapter so far, it was so sweet *_*
I loved everything about it and I wish I wasn't falling asleep seating before my notebook so I could tell you everything I loved about it. XD
I particularly loved this line: "At least all that stuff he knows is good for something."
I felt it was so... *telling* and subtle. *_*
Oh Jin...
I love this fic... but I guess you know that by now ;)
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Date: 2011-10-30 05:58 pm (UTC)You're right that that thought of Jin's is very telling... the little puppy.
We're really glad you're still enjoying how things are developing! Hope your work eases up on you at some point!!
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Date: 2011-10-27 02:18 pm (UTC)I'm so happy with these two.. you can't imagine. I wonder what I'll do when your fiction will be finished.. I mean the thursdays will never be the same..
I'm so grateful to you, thank you so much because this is really one of the most beautiful and well written fiction I have ever read. And we are talking about years and years of reading :DD
So.. to the chapter.
I absolutely adore the way Jin is behaving, I mean he is more and more carefree and brave. He's able to say words he never said in the past. For example "I'm just checking you out", or "Let's just have a good night, okay? I've been looking forward to this all week."
Sentences that make me feel the slowly changing of attitude, the confidence that it's growing inside him. Now he knows he can say certain words, he can joke about his attraction, he can even scold Kame, if necessary (lovely moment, really)
And also, he is stubborn. He is moving forward, he is moving THEM forward. I'm so proud :D
Kame is lovely and so, so uncertain. This is also something fascinating. He is full of fears but at the same time there is a kind of fire inside him, and this emotion doesn't let him give up on them. He could chose another escort, returning to Tatsuya, someone less challenging.. but obviously they are now too entangled.
Between them, something has started, and it's like this "something" is already living his own life (not sure if this is correct in english.. sorry!)
And the fact that Kame decided to return the favor to Jin.. was so, so romantic.. I really love ano futari..
Thank you again and again and again!
<3
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Date: 2011-10-30 05:59 pm (UTC)Jin has come quite a long way with what he feels safe to admit, and he is more confident now than he has been in a long long time. And yeah, as you're saying, quite stubborn! He doesn't want Kame to mope around pointlessly, and he's quite strict, in a way. *g* (We love your observation that he scolds Kame. He'd never admit it's what he's doing, but yeah.)
You're absolutely right that Kame could make an easier choice, or a less complicated choice, and go back to Tatsuya, for example. But he's too entangled to really feel very good about that option.
Between them, something has started, and it's like this "something" is already living his own life
This is a lovely image! And exactly right.
This was a great comment, we really appreciate you sharing your impressions. Thank you so much. <3
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Date: 2011-10-27 08:49 pm (UTC)ive always loved this AU that you guys have come up with and every chapter is so amazing.
I loved how jin was looking forward to his date with kame
loved how he has managed to take charge of their dates...and simply try to make kame understand that he also does want to be there...and that he can stop being so cautious all the time.
loved how jin's honesty is making kame relax more.
totally loved the whole checking you out dialogue...i think i just about melted with kame there. lol
and of course..i just love kame! hahaha
i loved how kame is trying so hard to make things up to jin...cuz he knew he was wrong.
loved how kame waited til jin got there to order their meal.
loved how he picked up a brand new selection of movies to watch for the 2 of them.
loved he does the lil things like..making jin a shower setting, buying him a robe and all that.
and in the end..loved how he respects the fact that jin is trying to be honest with him so that he doesnt have to be so insecure in his actions.
so.....basically a LOT of love going on here for the both of them and for the both of you!!!
now im off to read the new one!! =)
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Date: 2011-10-30 05:59 pm (UTC)totally loved the whole checking you out dialogue...i think i just about melted with kame there.
Heee, thank you. We really enjoyed writing this chapter and getting to write Jin more confidently and taking initiative, so it's great when that worked well for readers!
He's definitely trying to make Kame feel more at ease and not so cautious all the time -- and while Kame is kind of adorable to us when he's all shy and not wanting to make a mistake, they ultimately have more fun and better dates when he doesn't double-check every single move he makes, you know? *g*
We're glad you liked (and noticed) all the little things Kame is doing to make the dates nice for Jin too. This was a really cool and wonderfully enthusiastic comment and it had us bouncing in our chairs! Thank you so much! <3