The Same Deep Water As You (08/54)

[haikuesque.livejournal.com]

The Same Deep Water As You
by solo____ & jo_lasalle
Pairing: Kamenashi Kazuya / Akanishi Jin
Rating: Explicit
Disclaimer: This is a work of fiction. Alternate Universe fiction. None of this is true.
Warnings: If there are any warnings for this story, you will find them here.
Summary: Kame's got his reasons for seeing prostitutes. Jin's got his reasons for being one. Life is pretty screwed up.
Notes: Story notes, acknowledgements and frantically reiterated disclaimers are here.
Whores-to-go: Chapters 1 to 8 are also available as a catch-up download. It seemed to make sense.

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"I'd offer you a drink," Kamenashi says, "but I wouldn't want to get you worried." The narrow look he gives Jin when he leans against the polished wood, glass still in hand, says he doesn't mind Jin worried at all.
 

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[silverrain184.livejournal.com]

I'm always sitting on the edge of my chair, reading. Literally, seriously.

I'm happy things went at least a bit better this time and we slowly get more insight into Jin's past and what he's thinking about. Looks like he starts to learn to handle Kame better though Kame made it 'easier' for him to do so this time. looks like Jin needs it, after the development of things Kame will most likely turn to him again

We got to see that Jin doesn't like to be treated as just a meaningless 'piece', of course, who would and I guess that's a point that makes me dislike Kame.

At some point I almost thought Jin would see that Kame maybe isn't disrespecting him but that it's only his way of 'getting off'^^ Bit it was gone too fast though, Jin being busy wanting it to be over as fast as possible and maybe it was just my imagination after all.

I'm really curious how this continues, I'm dying to know what has to happen for them to understand more of each others worlds (if that's going to happen but I doubt you write more than 50 chapters of ways how Kame can humiliate and dominate someone ;P )

Did I mention before that I can't picture Jin as the bottom of Akame btw? I somewhat can understand it because there he's just doing a job but otherwise I just can't. Makes it even harder for me with this story but you've got me hooked despite this fact and my dislike for Kame - because I appreciate a good story *haha* just wanted to verbally/virtually pat you guys on the shoulder ^^b

[haikuesque.livejournal.com]

Don't fall of your chair! We don't want to hurt our readers! (Um, at least not in the falling-off-chairs way.)

Yes, Jin did better in this one, we're glad that came through. Though of course the poor thing is still getting plenty of not-so-much-better... :-/

As for treating Jin as a 'piece', Kame isn't generally like that... but yeah, we got no excuse for this and your reaction to him is entirely understandable.

if that's going to happen but I doubt you write more than 50 chapters of ways how Kame can humiliate and dominate someone

No... not fifty... not even thirty... Things will get better! eventually Um, hang in there? like Jin?

Ah, the top/bottom thing... People have quite strong feelings on this either way, it usually looks like. :-) We're very pleased we got you hooked even though you've got a different reading here -- and you're right, certainly for the escort part of his life Jin just does what the client tells him to do!

Thank you so much for commenting! yay! :-D we totally dig pats on the back, SRLSY. we'd roll over and purr and show our bellies too

[silverrain184.livejournal.com]

Nah, I'm quite good at hanging at the edge of my chair, I'm in training *haha*

plenty of not-so-much-better ... yeah, to be expected I guess ;__;

I do believe Kame isn't usually like this. Even Jin knows that or sees/believes that he's at least acting better since none else ever complained about Kame's sanity besides him^^

not even thirty
ARGH, should I be happy or scared now?! I'll hang in here not like you give me much choice

Yes, I can understand Jin's escort part, wonder how his life looks like besides this, we haven't seen much of it yet. Can't wait^^

LOL, if you roll over and purr you can get your bellies ruffled, too (now that sounds weird)

[agustin1982.livejournal.com]

Poor Jinny>________________< well, Kame always insult him and I know why Jin hates him....
Kame make me wonder-wonder....why he always make Jin uncomfortable. Jelousy, mad or somethings happen? Look like Kame do that bcoz he is fun with that.
and look like Kame know what Jin's thinking about him.

Love this part^^ the smut so hooottt, ne :DDDD
I will waiting for the next~~~
*HUGS*

[haikuesque.livejournal.com]

The Kame thing will clear up eventually too! We do say in his defense that he's not just randomly being a jerk.

We're glad you liked it! The chapter and the smut. *g* yay smut!

[natsukashi-yume.livejournal.com]

the more sex there is the more incoherent my comment. :D Really felt bad for Jin in this chapter. Kame, whatever his issues, does turn into a major creep around Jin. But I like to read it as he's totally in love with Jin already and fighting tooth and nail and being nasty to avoid showing it. Well, subconsciously. Even he doesn't know he's fallen. Um.. I had a brain.. somewhere. Now where did I put it?

We get some Jin back story! But it's so tragic. Jin. :( And then Kame doesn't allow him to really wallow in it, which can be good or bad. I guess another way to read the way Kame behaves around Jin is that he stops performing. Which is good or bad, because really he treats Jin like an object so maybe he's not such a nice guy after all. But I'm excited to see the learning curve and character development here.

[haikuesque.livejournal.com]

Your icon!Kame looks totally like he thinks long angsty thoughts about escorts that confuse him, just by the way...

We get :DDD when people are :Dincoherent after our chapters. Sorry about your brain! only not really

Yes, Jin's had a very tragic life. DD: We sometimes feel really guilty for it. (Also, we are sorry, Subaru!)

I guess another way to read the way Kame behaves around Jin is that he stops performing.

Yes, that's probably a good way of putting it. Which, in Jin's case, is a bad thing, because... well, sometimes it's good if people put a bloody filter on their less than charitable instincts. (And Kame has really not very charitable instincts here, we do know that. And zero filters. When he's usually a master of filters. The results... well.)

We do hope it'll be worth the angst and drama in the end (to people not us, too *g*). Thanks so much for commenting, it makes posting days so much more FUN for us!!

[natsukashi-yume.livejournal.com]

I <3 angsty Kame, especially thinking about confusing escorts. It'll be interesting to see what filterless Kame throws up. It's funny because in some cases he goes out of his way to be nice, like to his pregnant co-star. I wonder what it is in people that elicits the protective instinct and what besides Jin's perceived judgment about his career choices makes Kame's hackles raise. His filters may drop but he's no less transparent.. which of course makes for an intriguing character.

(Your icon!Jin bares a striking resemblance to said confusing escort.)

[haikuesque.livejournal.com]

It's funny because in some cases he goes out of his way to be nice, like to his pregnant co-star.

He does, doesn't he. He's not all bad! (the authors said guiltily)

Our defeated!escort!Jin makes sad eyes at your gloomy!angsty!Kame.

[tinna116.livejournal.com]

thanks!!!
^^

[haikuesque.livejournal.com]

You're welcome. :-)

[ina]

Very hot! I am really getting what I paid for. Oh wait I am not paying anything here. :D

Poor Jin. He really brings out the worst in Kame. But now I am really really curious how you'll solve this. Still over forty chapters to go. :)

Very happy about top prosecutor Shige! ;)

[haikuesque.livejournal.com]

I am really getting what I paid for. Oh wait I am not paying anything here.

Wait, we don't like the logic of this... ::suspicious look:: (But hey, at least someone is getting a good value deal out of this. Not everyone is, ask Kame!)

Yeah, and if you consider that it'll get worse before it gets better, you'll suddenly understand why this is so loooooong. ;-) We need to give them time to get their act together.

Shige deserves a distinguished career!

[aya-3003.livejournal.com]

I start to look forward to your updates.
Thank you very much!

It will be interesting to see if they ever find a way to like each other. and if there's a way what made their opinion change.

[haikuesque.livejournal.com]

Glad you are enjoying it! And hey, the authors have decided they will find a way... it may just take a while. All those chapters... ;-)

Thank you for commenting!

[souleater-angel.livejournal.com]

i swear these chapters get better every week.

Totally laughed at the 'frog breasts' and 'frog steaks' bit. I was talking with my mom about frog's legs just the other day and was wondering the exact same thing. What the heck do they do with the rest of the frog?

i'm really glad we got a little bit of Jin's past in this one. For a few moments I was wondering if Kame was going to somehow push him enough that Jin might spill something to him, like he kind of wanted to with Yamatani.

I feel so badly for Jin. Really. Like, i want to legitimately give him a hug, not in a silly crazy fangirl way,*which i am totally not btw* like an actual hug. Poor guy. Even though he doesn't especially care what Kame's opinion of him is, every little insult that comes out of Kame's mouth really does hurt his feelings to an extent. He needs a friend; needs someone to talk to.

Kame doesn't act with Jin. I feel that this is important, although I don't really think he puts on much of an act with Ueda either, but with Jin he doesn't bother to hide his worst character flaws. At least when they get to know each other better, there won't be any surprises for Jin in the 'varieties of bitchiness in Kame.'

This is written so well guys. Two of you are writing this, but it is not choppy with pov or confusing or anything that i have found a lot of other fics written by multiple writers to be. Honestly very good. The hair-tearing editing fits are worth it. *pats* Keep it up.

Ah every time i finish a chapter a week seems like such a long time away...

[haikuesque.livejournal.com]

YES! It's mystified Solo, too, about the frogs. In the course of researching for this chapter she finally looked it up, and it turns out that the rest of the frog doesn't taste good. Poor legless frog.

We're really glad Jin makes you feel protective. The poor guy has had a really rough couple of years and he needs a break. Hugs would be very welcome, we're sure. (Just not from that Kamenashi creep. Eeeeek!)

You're right, Kame doesn't act with Jin and what's more, Jin brings out the worst in him. We love your optimistic take on that ('At least Jin will know his bitchy side by the time they get together.') There is some truth there. :D

Thank you for your comments on our writing, we're really glad it works seamlessly. You should hear us fight over 'comma' versus 'semicolon' sometimes, or where the paragraph break should go: you'd think we're nuts.

[souleater-angel.livejournal.com]

It's okay. Believe me, I do that too...

"No, it's two complete sentences; it's a semicolon!"

"No, that looks weird, comma!" --Except it's just me, so it's weird.

I also ponder for what I'm sure is way too long on whether or not to put a 'that' in. "It was something he should do, It was something *that* he should do" Thank goodness I have fellow grammar perfectionists to sympathize with.
I really appreciate the effort you guys put into this. *or should it be '*that* you guys put into this'....?!!*

XD.

[haikuesque.livejournal.com]

I also ponder for what I'm sure is way too long on whether or not to put a 'that' in. "It was something he should do, It was something *that* he should do"

We do that too!!!! Well, we don't ponder all *that* much usually, but Jo is far more likely not to put in the relative pronoun, and Solo is far more likely to put it in, and sometimes whoever has written a bit then gets it amended by the other, and... usually we end up making it depend on the rhythm of the sentence. Um. Maybe we ponder a lot after all. ;-)

[souleater-angel.livejournal.com]

The fact that each of you are aware of your normal relative pronoun habits amuses me to no end. It's okay, good fic comes out of the intense pondering!

[http://users.livejournal.com/solo____/]

It's amazing how many of your own habits you become aware of if you collaborate with somebody. Stuff that seems totally normal to you and which you never thought about before is suddenly the subject of close dissection and heated discussion. :D

Seriously, it's an education. :)

[nightinbird.livejournal.com]

Not much time and I got to get up in five hours, but just this: My day mostly cosisted of hardcore studying (read: desperate scrambling for deadlines), and the only thing that got me through was that I promised myself I could read this after I was finished for the day. I know it's going to sound sappy, but this was like... my shining beacon. ^^;;

... okay so I was going to end this here, BUT I CAN'T BECAUSE THIS WAS JUST SO MANY WAYS OF SAAFDSAFDAFDSAFDSAFDAFSAFSDAFDASF and Kame getting Jin off like he was determined to prove something (to prove that Jin wouldn't have liked the others better? lol Kame, you are so irrational and strangely possessive and jealous and you don't even realize it!), and gaaaah that was hot, and Jin, how he tries not to let Kame see or hear he likes it but can't help himself. and then the blowjob that was sort of terrible for Jin, and how he's waiting for the sex to just end and his nerves are so on edge and. Idk, I think the contrast between the handjob where Jin was taken by surprise and kind of involved (or couldn't help being involved) and the rest, where he wasn't, was brilliantly done. The first part was hot, the rest, not so much, because we get it from Jin's side of things, and he doesn't really find it hot. But he can't do shopping lists, so we get it told in full lenghth in detail. and somehow Kame is worse than the others, and which shows again how Kame just grates on him and sets him on edge, and I wonder so so so much what things are going to happen between this two further along the way to get them together. I think so much change has happened already, how their dynamic keeps shifting and shifting, and it's one of the many things that make this such an amazing read.
And how Kame is set on edge by Jin,too! I LOVED the talking between them, how Kame is kind of furious under his mask and deliberately mean, and how Jin can't keep his mouth shut and provokes him right back.
Jin in the end has my heart, you know. With his past, and Subaru, and being the one who gets the psycho-side of Kame (that cracked me up so hard), and the others who don't get it at all and all this talk of Kame being all sweet love when he isn't to Jin, and just. guh. incoherent. it's late.
It's funny how I keep saying aaaah I want to know about X's POV now next chapter, and once I get that, I'm all OMG NOW I NEED Y'S POV EVEN MOAR, and on and on it goes and with every chapter, I'm expecting the next one more. Because this, I've said it before (and you know it, anyway ^^) is epic epic epic brilliant stuff. I think I might cry when the last chapter is posted.

... okay, I'm waaaay too invested. ^^;; Going to sleep now. Thank you so much for this, and see you again next week. ♥

[haikuesque.livejournal.com]

Whee! With all this angst we inflict on people (never mind all the dishes, laundry and other housework that didn't get done in the name of this epic) we are immensely pleased it serves as a treat for people to get shit done. :-) Well done on your hard work!

We enjoyed writing Jin being bitchy right back, to be honest. :-) It made a nice change from their last encounter...

Poor Jin. Poor Subaru. (We sometimes feel bad about that too.) And thank you for all those details and telling us what you noticed and liked, authors tend to squeal helplessly at this sort of stuff. And you're totally right about how the handjob and the rest of the sex affected Jin in very different ways!

It's funny how I keep saying aaaah I want to know about X's POV now next chapter, and once I get that, I'm all OMG NOW I NEED Y'S POV EVEN MOAR, and on and on it goes and with every chapter,

MwaahAHAHAha! No, srsly, this is great. There are, after all, quite a few chapters left to come, and it would suck if it got too boring. We must be doing something right! Also we like being evil teases.

I think I might cry when the last chapter is posted.

see when we get there? ;-) But thank you for the vote of confidence, and this lovely comment, it was a joy to wake up to this morning. And while we are staying faaaar away from epics this size in the future, there is a chance we might still play here or there in this universe even after posting, depending on how it all goes and where we are in (OMG) a year. :-)

[sakurascorpion.livejournal.com]

Wow, I love this chapter! Awesome work. I hope Jin learns about Kame's better side, and Kame learns Jin is just afraid of being hurt. AKAME please don't hate each other~

[haikuesque.livejournal.com]

Glad you love it! :-) We promise Jin will learn some stuff, though maybe not the stuff you are thinking of... and Kame will come to know Jin a bit better, it'll just take time. We have a cunning plan. /evil laughter

We also promise they'll stop hating each other... just not quite yet.

[lady-aenea.livejournal.com]

Girls, you write the best smut EVER *_* But I don't love you only because of it.
This keeps getting better and better, I love those panick-y flashes of thought that we get and that kind of reveal bits of Jin's past. I'm liking Jin here, the "texture", the tone of his thoughts is hysterically heartbraking, I still can't decide if I want to pet him or slap him... and I must confess that at times I found myself LAUGHING because the way you phrase his frustration is so... JIN... ant the pace and everything is so different from Kame...

Ok, there's Shige... with glasses... adsadss...

And I *would* like to know more about Maru and his uniform fixation.... xD

I love love loooove all your characters... and I'm loving this fic a LOT! *_*

Thanks for another GREAT chapter!!! :D

[haikuesque.livejournal.com]

YAY, you like our smut. *__*

Thank you so much for your comments on Jin's voice, we're really pleased that that is working. :) He and Kame have very different backgrounds, outlooks and personalities and really, that needs to be reflected in the way their thoughts work.

Shige... we don't even know that much about him but we thought he'd make a cool prosecutor with glasses, yeah. Poor Maru almost ended up with something worse than a uniform fetish, we really didn't know enough about him when we started the epic... but he, uh, evolved. :-)

Thank *you* for a wonderful comment. :D

[carboncastel.livejournal.com]

Hi! I'm sorry I don't comment on every chapter, but I read every one, I swear, lol! This is a really exciting chapter!! So many things going on, I especially like the interactions bet. characters that provide some insight about them. Can I just say the way Kame treats Jin really scares me as of now... eep! o.o But then again, somehow Jin's snarky reactions to Kame are also fueling the fire. Maybe Kame is angry that he can't charm Jin the way he charms everyone else haha! I do hope their relationship gets better soon. :<

And omg Nakamaru! Yaaaay! But heeeyyy Jin and everyone else, why are you making fun of him?! >:( He's probably the nicest client ever, don't you dare!! The Maru fangirl in me wants to defend him haha lol sorry. xD

Can't wait to read more! Thanks so much for this! :D

[haikuesque.livejournal.com]

LOL we're sure this would be loads more confusing if you didn't read every chapter! But thank you for commenting, we are cheap and easy and take all the comments we can get. *g*

Kame scared us sometimes too... He has a way of just... escalating things in the right wrong kind of mood. As for their relationship getting better soon, it kinda depends on your definition of 'soon'.

We apologize to the Nakamaru fangirls everywhere! Jin's POV on Nakamaru is not the authors'. They were just not very compatible. *g*

Thank you for commenting! ;-)

[brindhakrishnan.livejournal.com]

It seems like Jin's actually all alone. And I still find it very difficult to think Kame is anything more than just a creep, really. Why does he keep staring at Jin. What is so fascinating? Is it because Jin is unlike the others who love to suck up to him?
Still hook and can't wait to find out more!
Thanks for sharing this!~ :)

[haikuesque.livejournal.com]

Yes, you're right, Jin is pretty alone. Sometimes he deals better with that than other times. And he *is* starting to make some friends, only he's still new in his area.

Why does he keep staring at Jin. What is so fascinating?

Very, VERY good and important question. :-)

We know Kame is a horrible creep here (and for a while to come) but hopefully we can redeem him in the end.

Thank you for commenting!

[secretobssesion.livejournal.com]

loved the interaction in this chapter,finally more conversations :)
i really look forward to your update (i'm getting addicted to this *_*)

[haikuesque.livejournal.com]

Yeah, we were looking forward to more interaction too when we wrote it. (Jin, not so much. But nobody's asking him anyway.)

Thank you for commenting, and sorry about the addiction tendencies!

[angedecristal.livejournal.com]

wow!Kame gives Jin NO respite!Lol
This chapter is ultra dark & violent...but oh so sexy.
Despite all the tension,that was great to see a little more conversation between the two of them!I really enjoyed their interaction:tense,gloomy and unexpectedly...droll!Cant wait for more!
Oh!And Kazuya's usually so polished & composed,it's still disturbing and creepy to see his evil tendencies springing forth whenever he's alone with Jin. o.0
And,omg!How does Jin manage to keep his cool through all this? O.o
I know the boy needs the money & the job,maybe has seen worst in the streets...etc...still i hope he's going to be more selfprotective & maybe a little less resigned afterwards.
I also find it weird,how Jin's never questioning his obvious lack of ability to escort;never imagining another way to earn his living!How strange!I bet he would be bad at cybersex too! :)
Though Jin's miserable aspects of life are pretty obvious,i suspect that what lies behind Kame's brutality is pretty ugly too.I really feel bad for him!And so,now he must be so muddled & confounded whenever he rethinks his actions...or so i hope.
This story's so engrossing.
OMG!Every word.Every phrase matters!Good job!
I need to know more! :)

[haikuesque.livejournal.com]

Hee! Uh, what we mean is of course, yes, it's a terrible thing, how Kame is so relentless.

:-)

ultra dark & violent...but oh so sexy.

You know, if we were a band, we'd want this as our album title. But seriously, thanks, that is a nice compliment. Um. For people like us. >_> As is:

tense,gloomy and unexpectedly...droll!

We are so glad that with all the angst and ~issues~ it's not just a drag, you know? :-)

Yeah, this club gig is far better for Jin than what he had on the streets, in terms of both safety and payment (and, uh, hygiene), so he figures he'll put up with whatever gets thrown at him here for as long as he has to and at least he can tell himself that eventually he'll get out.

He knows he's bad at it, he just doesn't know what else he could do right now that would pay the rent.

I bet he would be bad at cybersex too! :-)

LOL! You've got us cracking up at the image of Jin trying to do cyber sex. Or phone sex. God it would be comedy GOLD. All those awkward silences. poor Jin :-)

You... might be on the right track regarding Kame. Give it time...

Thank you for this great comment! :-)

[shirayuki1582.livejournal.com]

Facts about Jin's past are always very interesting. Sad but interesting. I love getting to know him more. I feel so sorry about Subaru.... but I like that they were somehow related and that he took Jin in when he had noone else. Touching. It took me a moment to realize that it was SHIGE Kato xD (I'm so slow...). But the idea is hilarious!

Kame.... starts to lose control a bit. But I think he's already very posessive when it comes to Jin. Maybe even jealous? Of course he's far from realising that yet. And he's very disrespectful to him at times. I wondered whether his concern, when Jin looked sad and he asked what's wrong, if it was real concern or...? Because he seems quite insensitive when it comes to Jin in all other situations. But then... he touches him gently later and for a moment they seemed almost intimate when Kame was taking his time with him. Hm. But then he had to be all mean again -___-'
Although I assume that Kame comes from a completely different world and so he probably doesn't understand Jin's behaviour because of that? I'm sure that if he knew about the sad past he would understand and feel differently... I feel a bit sorry for him even. He struggles having a place where he can only be himself. It feels like he even has to put on an act with the other club members and can't be natural. Right now, he only sees himself and his issues...

What I love most about this chapter though is the ending. I'm glad Jin has a place like that where he can feel safe and protected and warm. It felt very peaceful. <3

[haikuesque.livejournal.com]

Ha! We were wondering how many people had actually made the connection to Shige... not many said anything. :-) As for poor Subaru, sometimes we want to declare how sorry we are for killing him. But Jin remembers him fondly! (And, well, life on the streets is hard.)

And yeah, this Kame has kind of a default reaction to Jin that does not include a lot of kindness. >.<

If he knew about Jin's past... hm, he probably doesn't *want* to know about it in this situation. Like, people don't hire prostitutes so they can hear about their horrible pasts (and most people don't become prostitutes for fun). For Kame, the club is the place where he tries to relax, and normally (before Jin) that even worked, so he's not really up for considering backstories?

You're right, Kame desperately needs a place to chill. And we are glad it's coming through how much the club means to Jin, even with how he feels about the job as such!

[shirayuki1582.livejournal.com]

awwww! thank you for replying like that on my comments!!<3

What I meant with Jin's past... Of course, Kame wouldn't wanna know now. But he might find out eventually in the future and understand much better why Jin doesn't want to do certain things (like bondage) and that it's not just Jin's attitude and arrogance that makes him "strange" in Kame's eyes. But of course now he only wants to have it his way and not consider Jin's feelings. Maybe my way of commenting is very messy. Not so good at explaining sometimes. :)

[haikuesque.livejournal.com]

We love talking about the story (and about the guys) with people, and your comments are really thoughtful, so it's fun to reply to them. :-)

You're right, it's going to be a different picture later! Each of them will learn a bit about the other's background eventually, and that'll make a difference. The trick is even getting them *interested* in the first place. :D