The Same Deep Water As You (14/54)
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solo____ & jo_lasalle
Pairing: Kamenashi Kazuya / Akanishi Jin
Rating: Explicit
Disclaimer: This is a work of fiction. Alternate Universe fiction. None of this is true.
Warnings: If there are any warnings for this story, you will find them here.
Summary: Kame's got his reasons for seeing prostitutes. Jin's got his reasons for being one. Life is pretty screwed up.
Notes: Story notes, acknowledgements and frantically reiterated disclaimers are here.
Previous chapters | Current chapter
Kame stands by while Jin strips the shirt off Yuuya, artless and functional, looking vaguely apologetic about it.
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solo____ & jo_lasalle Pairing: Kamenashi Kazuya / Akanishi Jin
Rating: Explicit
Disclaimer: This is a work of fiction. Alternate Universe fiction. None of this is true.
Warnings: If there are any warnings for this story, you will find them here.
Summary: Kame's got his reasons for seeing prostitutes. Jin's got his reasons for being one. Life is pretty screwed up.
Notes: Story notes, acknowledgements and frantically reiterated disclaimers are here.
Previous chapters | Current chapter
Kame stands by while Jin strips the shirt off Yuuya, artless and functional, looking vaguely apologetic about it.
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Date: 2011-06-09 11:31 am (UTC)It goes from hot to wierd to suspenseful to what the heck is going on??!!
AHHHH and you cut it off right before Akame only interaction!!! Just... AHHH!!!
*breathes*
I had originally thought this chapter would be from Jin's POV; I so deperatetly want to know what's going through Jin's head during all of this. He suddenly decided not to refuse Kame after all, the reason for that I am still very curious to know, and the little Jin and Yuuya interaction-- yeah I want to know what all is up with that as well.
Basically I need clarification with, like, everything. Yeah.
Jin's behaviour is... interesting. and confusing. I know there's a deeper reason to everything he does, and even though I don't know what those reasons are, I feel sorry for him anyway. Few fics out there cause such intense protective feelings for Jin to surface.
I'm in Japan currently so it feels like I have to wait even LONGER for updates... at least it's not quite Friday yet XD. But of course I cannot wait to find out what happens next.
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Date: 2011-06-09 11:33 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2011-06-11 07:23 am (UTC)But you're with Kame on the 'what the heck is going on' - he doesn't quite get it either. Since you're currently stuck in his head by unfeeling authors, we guess the feeling makes some sense?
Sorry about the Jin POV - part of the secret to this is that we actually thought, way back when we were young and naive, that chapters 13 to 15 would be one single chapter from Kame's POV... and then they got longer, and longer, and OMG. So we're afraid you'll have to wait a bit longer for Jin.
There's totally a deeper reason for what Jin's doing, at least up to this point. :)
Oooh, you're in Japan? On vacation? We're both envious. Where are you?
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Date: 2011-06-11 07:56 am (UTC)I'm in Shiga, about ten minutes away from Kyoto. Technically it's for school credits, although not officially, it's very confusing. Officially I'm here for "sight-seeing." *shh, don't tell immigration.* ^_^ I hear KAT-TUN on the radio and see their merchandise in stores and try not to freak out. It's awesome. But yeah I'm here for the summer, so I might be the first to see updates from you guys until then mwahahaha.
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Date: 2011-06-11 08:08 am (UTC)Yes, Chapter 16 is where you get Jin's take. But we hope (um. yeah. hope. oh god.) that the next chapter will have enough of interest to keep you entertained in the meantime. (ohgod...)
Oh, Kyoto. Solo has been there and thought it was very pretty. She's going to take Jo there later this year, when we're heading to Japan for Dream Boys. Will you still be there then? (So do you study Japanese?)
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Date: 2011-06-11 12:28 pm (UTC)Haha don't worry I'm sure I'll love it. I love every chapter so far. Curious as to what you have planned for it.
I've briefly been to Kyoto and loved it so far. Ooh Dream Boys... you're so lucky... when is that? I've studied Japanese for about a year, so I'm still very very much a beginner, (becomes more evident with every day that goes by), but the last month that I'm here I'll be studying it more so looking forward to that.
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Date: 2011-06-11 12:53 pm (UTC)Dream Boys is in September; we still have a lot of planning to do before that. We hope to spend a week in Tokyo to go see it, and tour Japan apart from that.
It must be awesome to learn Japanese, even as a beginner, while actually being *in* Japan. Go you!
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Date: 2011-06-11 03:00 pm (UTC)Ahh no I'll have left by then... I would've liked to see Dream Boys too. *grumbles*
Tokyo should be great, although quite expensive, and Kyoto is lovely. You'll miss the worst of the horrible heat wave too if you come in September. I'm sure you both will have a wonderful time. :]
It will be great to learn Japanese while here. I absolutely love the language and study for fun, so I'm really looking forward to it. ^_^
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Date: 2011-06-09 12:18 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2011-06-11 07:25 am (UTC)But thank you! ♥
Jin's POV coming up, just not quite yet -- so you're forewarned. :-)
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Date: 2011-06-11 11:46 am (UTC)As for Jin's behaviour in this chapter and the one before, I kind of got the feeling that (aside from his usual issues with kame, and the humiliation thing going on there in front of Yuya) he was actually trying to "protect" Yuya? If I remember correctly, Kame realized Jin seemed to be "offering" after it seemed (to Jin) like Kame had an interest in Yuya. He also interrupted Tegoshi when he was about to say he'd look forward to a later opportunity to meet up. After it becomes clear that he has actually drawn Yuya into the whole thing, i thought he was still trying to keep Yuya "safe"? The touches during the bj seemed to me like Jin was trying to stir Yuya away from his flirting with Kame (Yuya was trying to make Kame stop fixating so much on Jin, I think) and when Jin had that dramatic change of mind about the positioning during sex and actually begged Kame, I think the reason might have again been that he was fearing Kame would actually switch his focus on Yuya. (though i could also see him fearing the possibility of a more humiliating position)
Jin is, I believe, genuinely fond of sweet, happy Yuya, and additionally he just recently witnessed Yuya considering less vanilla services. Kame, for Jin, is this crazy, threatening guy he can't predict, and who (when Jin is around) seems to disprove the image everyone else has of him. So, to sum this up, maybe Jin's simply afraid Kame will behave the same way with Yuya as with him, and he wants to spare Yuya the experience.
Lol I realize this got out of hand. Which kind of proves my first point. ;)
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Date: 2011-06-11 12:46 pm (UTC)Having said that, this comment made us bounce with joy. There might have been delighted giggling, too. Basically, YES. To ALL of that, every single thing. It's so nice to hear you're picking up on all the little things we put in to try and indicate what's going on despite being stuck in Kame's POV. :-D GLEEEEEEE!
And it's a bit ironic (OMG poor Jin) too, because Yuuya could probably handle Kame way way better than Jin can, plus Kame wouldn't go nuts on him like that anyway, but Jin can't know that, and... oh Jin... you panda...
Thank you, this analysis made us very happy. :-) Rambling on for ages is very much encouraged (once your thesis is done!) and should you want to go back, we will NOT COMPLAIN AT ALL. :-D
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Date: 2011-06-23 11:12 am (UTC)I'm glad I could make you happy, because your story makes my day every week! ♥
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Date: 2011-06-09 03:06 pm (UTC)And oh the difference in Tegoshi's stripping technique and Jin's... fufufufu. It was hard to tell whether Kame was being possessive of Jin or just impatient with the proceedings, but I liked the ambiguity. I felt really bad for Jin in this... seeing as how Yuuya is his junior in the club. Kame was basically humiliating Jin (which he does normally as well) but it was even worse than normal because Yuuya was there to witness and kind of forced to comment on it. The hardest part for me to read was the bj, when Kame keeps asking Yuuya to describe it. It just... sent the wrong kind of shivers down my spine. That is to say, your writing is excellent and did exactly what it was meant to do... ;)
*Yes Yuuya, show your concern.. show Kame how crazy he's being.* I think it's also telling that Kame keeps thinking he wants professionalism, but it's really not enough for him. It's definitely a good thing he sees his reactions to Jin filtered through Yuuya, who is the consummate professional that Kame thinks he wants. Time for a time-out Kame... do some self-reflecting. But oh wait, there's Kame and Jin time coming up... ohhhh fuuuuuu... *whimper*
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Date: 2011-06-11 07:37 am (UTC)Hee. We know somebody who would say it wasn't much different from a hostage situation in general.
Kame really deserves to have some things thrown at him. >.< (IOW, some of this surprised even us. Argh.)
Thank you for the Tego comment. We enjoyed having him there while writing too (for some value of enjoyed anyway) because of the contrast and, yes, some slightly saner perspective on these proceedings, and you totally got what Kame was up to. So this was great to read, and the details you gave us. (We are
notsorry for the wrong kind of shivers.)Kame and self-reflection =/= OTP. :-/ But yeah, his time will come. We promise at least that.
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Date: 2011-06-09 03:35 pm (UTC)It's like a car crash when what's happening is horrible but you just can't look away.
I'm so scared for what's happening, the way Kame is 'acting' and how he made clear 'it's going to take a while'...
On the other hand, I'm so curious what Yuuya is thinking right now. I'm dying to read the next conversation between him and Jin. He seemed to be scared for Jin, so reluctand how he was to leave them alone. I'm really glad someone besides Jin knows about Kame's behavior now and he isn't alone with it anymore.
Lastly, I really wonder what Jin is going through. We still couldn't see what made him agree in the first place and despite his dislike, he stays with him even when Yuuya leaves, encouraging that it'll be ok.
I had hoped this would go better but you didn't disappoint my expectations when you said, it'll get worse and I'm sure this is just a small step. So far, this chapter got me the worst reactions. The way Kame made Jin 'pleasure' Yuuya was just so wrong (maybe it's just me, adding to the fact that I can't even stand reading Jin as bottom) but I liked how uncomfortable Yuuya was with it as well...as his junior.
I wonder if there was more behind Jin's hesitation to go the last step Kame wanted them to, together with Yuuya, aside from the obvious. He was so scared when Kame said they should do something else. Jin knows that this can get way worse.
Uah, this is going to occupy my poor mind for a while...
Awesome job as usual!
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Date: 2011-06-11 07:37 am (UTC)Yeah, you're right, Yuuya and what he's thinking is pretty important. It was definitely time somebody else experienced the Kamenashi!Crazy.
Jin has his reasons. They are a bit misguided perhaps, but he definitely knows what he wants, up to this point.
Hey, would we lie about how bad it gets?
Jin does know (theoretically) that there are some bad things which simply cannot happen - he's at the club, there are rules. But he's got his own little triggers which complicate life, and Kame is good at finding them.
Glad you liked! (Well... ;-)
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Date: 2011-06-11 08:20 am (UTC)Well, qwe saw Jin's reasons the second time Kame chose him in the club so I guess this is part of it as well.
Now I really wonder how it would look like if Jin pushes the panic button ;P Especially after Yuuya left so reluctantly...
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Date: 2011-06-11 12:49 pm (UTC)If Jin pushed the panic button, Mikami would storm the room and then stop, very puzzled, because nothing outside the rules is going on. And then everybody would apologize very much to Kamenashi-sama, and Jin would probably be kicked out. >_>
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Date: 2011-06-11 01:51 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2011-06-09 04:56 pm (UTC)this is my first ever comment in this fic im becoming speechless. XD *bricks self* Akame got the room to themselves now and i cant wait for what is about to happen! asfjhgklas what are u planning now kame?? will u be an uke now??? :3 coughhotsmutcough kyaaaa~
and yuuya, poor yuuya, its like he was weirded out with the change of events XD THEN JIN, omg im dying to know what jin is thinking asfjhkl he just kept on obeying.. maybe because they are with yuuya? gahhhh D: though i have a little hard time imagining jin with another person, jinxothers.. i just cant /get shot but i did my best ^0^ jin is effin hot anw asghkjfas
anw, thank u for this fic! i will wait for the next chap~ nice work dearies <3
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Date: 2011-06-11 07:42 am (UTC)A question Jin asks himself frequently.
this is my first ever comment in this fic im becoming speechless.
LOL speechlessness makes you comment? It's great to hear from you, though, we love to hear from people about what they made of the chapter.
Yeah, Jin was relatively... accommodating. :-| He has his reasons, and we think you're on to the main one.
We're not particularly keen on Jin/Others, but hey, with the whoring job and all, there's not really a good or realistic way around it. *g*
We hope the next chapter won't, uh, disappoint... Thank you for commenting!
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Date: 2011-06-09 05:41 pm (UTC)I'm glad someone besides Jin gets that Kame is a pscyho lol. Thanks for the update <3 :D
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Date: 2011-06-11 07:51 am (UTC)Thank you for commenting! Same time, same place, same messed-up guys next week... ;-)
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Date: 2011-06-12 10:19 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2011-06-09 05:49 pm (UTC)Wow... Kame really went to far this time ne. I think he realised it a little though when he breaks it all off and knows that this is not his normal self when he think he actually just wants to enjoy himself and not try so hard. I think his dominating role exhausts him quite a bit... It's very obvious from the start that he only has eyes for Jin. The cliffhanger in the end was very very mean girls! I can't believe I have to wait a whole week for this! :O
I feel very bad for Yuuya. He was so cheerful first. I had to laugh in the beginning about his excitement ("this will be so much fun") because I could imagine Jin's death glare at this xD. But poor Yuuya, he really made an effort and was so sweet but it was for nothing =/
A moment caught my special interest. It's when Yuuya wants to remove Kame's tie and from nowhere Jin rushes to them and wants to do it himself? Ha! What is that now...?
And of course it's surprising how obedient he is, all of a sudden. Is he afraid of losing his Job? But then it struck me when Jin suddenly is "in character" when he has to voice out that he wants to be on that floor. You made hints about his past relationship with that guy (Naoki?) and from what I know it must've been some sort of abusing relationship? I very much suspect that Jin is familiar with that sort of "game" and kind of fell back into his past role he had in it? Somehow that makes me really sad though ='/
It's interesting how he takes Kame's side in the end. I think that he just might rather be with Kamenashi alone instead of dragging Yuuya into it as well so he probably feels relieved when he leaves?
The worst thing about those three together in this chapter is the humiliation between Jin and Yuuya. Yuuya looks up to Jin and even kinda admires his senpai and then he has to do that to Jin and it's obvious how uncomfortable he feels about it =/
I never much had an issue with Kame dominating Jin in this fic but he really went overboard this time and I truly wanna slap him! Please don't make me dislike Kame like that ='/
P.S. Sorry for typos again and the like.... Commenting on my phone again ;)
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Date: 2011-06-11 07:53 am (UTC)Poor Yuuya, there he thought he had a happy hot threesome coming up, and then this. Yes, that moment with the tie you noticed is pretty relevant. It's not so much that Jin's worried about losing his job... well, he's always worried about losing his job, but this was a bit more immediate. And you're totally right, he wants Yuuya out of there at any cost. (And Yuuya is glad to be gone, because as you noted, the way Kame asks him to treat Jin isn't really his scene, either.)
I never much had an issue with Kame dominating Jin in this fic but he really went overboard this time and I truly wanna slap him! Please don't make me dislike Kame like that ='/
We... um. We love Kame dearly, so we wouldn't keep you disliking him for very long, but maybe just a little bit longer... *cough*
Thank you for this comment, we really enjoyed getting your views! :)
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Date: 2011-06-11 09:36 am (UTC)Ever since I read the chapter there's a thought I can't get rid off so I better ask ne :) Jin really wanted out of all that craziness at first and didn't understand why other guys, eg Tatsuya, would talk nicely about Kamenashi. Now however I have a feeling like Jin would "defend" Kamenashi if Yuuya was to confront him about what happened.. Or at least make it sound less bad than it actually is. For whatever twisted reason Jin may have for it. Is this thought completely wrong? I try to understand their psychology (esp Jin's) but it really isn't easy ;)
I still hope we will get to know about Kame's date with Tatsuya. Although I kinda suspect Kame to realise that he'll be bored b/c Yuuya reminded him of Tatsuya a lot and next to Jin he barely had an eye for Yuuya :3
Ah well....will have to wait I guess *anticipation* xD
I'm currently preparing for exams and I only have two weeks left for it o_____O so I'll go back revising now!!
Thanks for your reply! :D
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Date: 2011-06-11 12:28 pm (UTC)Okay, about your question -- your instinct is a good one, and you're basically right that Jin would try to make it sound less bad to Yuuya, if they talked now. Not so much because he's feeling very charitable towards Kame, but because he wouldn't want Yuuya to worry. As you pointed out earlier, Yuuya sees Jin as his senpai and looks up to him, so Jin would feel even worse if he felt he was 'whining' to Yuuya.
Your instinct re: Tatsuya is also pretty good. :-) (And we feel a bit bad to be teases about the Kameda, but, well, Kame is experiencing ~developments~ that kind of change his focus.)
We agree that Jin is really hard to understand just now; it would help to get his POV again sometime soon, but we're afraid that'll have to wait until chapter 16. Then, things may become a bit less confusing.
Good luck with your exams!
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Date: 2011-06-09 06:38 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2011-06-11 07:52 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2011-06-09 07:17 pm (UTC)Love this chapter~~~ Really..Kame...why he is always make Jin in pain~~ and Yuuya~~ so weird when I see them...
maybe Jin dont want Yuuya see it and really poor Jin~~~
Why Kame always do that to Jin, cruel to Jin like that~~
I am so glad Kame change his mind and let Yuuya to leave...
Thats better if Yuuya leave them alone...
Cant wait for the next when Jin and Kame alone, I will waiting this^^
Oh I will waiting for seven day...
Thank you for the update, ne :DDD
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Date: 2011-06-11 07:52 am (UTC)Jin is glad Kame changed his mind and let Yuuya leave too. Very glad. Come back next week and see how glad. :-)
Thank you very much for the feedback, and we hope you'll enjoy next week too!
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Date: 2011-06-10 02:48 am (UTC)Kame made it very obvious at parts that he would prefer being Yuuya and from the very beginning he was expecting a whole more separate time with Jin. That I know.
Since I think afew of these chapters were written from Kame's POV we are still getting his actions, his desires and so on.So last Chapter, in the beginning Kame says he does not want to see Jin. That Jin upsets his systems...And by the end of it, everything went out of the window. Now it has completely gone off the roof.
Its so easy to read Kame in a way though. He's intrigued, amused and he acknowledges that he is fascinated only with Jin especially when he asks Yuuya what he thinks of Jin and so on.
All this I got before the most awkward part.
I really would like to know what Jin is thinking, Especially when he tells Kame "This is good," Jin says, "no need for change. Please." and then "Please, Yuuya, leave,"... Like what is Jin really thinking? How come Yuuya finds Kame's instructions okay and yet Jin fusses about it. When Yuuya says its fine, I am truly know he's enjoying. When Jin says its fine, I think he doesn't like what he's doing...or does he?
And that whole part when Kame flips! Woah.... That was so unexpected. And this current cliffhanger is mean.
lol...
It has seem to make it worse for Kame and Jin but I am totally not sure where this is going since in one chapter Kame and Jin can be rational and in the next they are complete opposites.
Thanks for sharing this!~ Looking forward to the next one!!~~ :)
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Date: 2011-06-11 08:02 am (UTC)So last Chapter, in the beginning Kame says he does not want to see Jin. That Jin upsets his systems...And by the end of it, everything went out of the window. Now it has completely gone off the roof.
Yep. Jin has upset his system again! :p
You read him right, he's fascinated with Jin, or rather, pretty obsessed. Not in a good way, unfortunately.
Jin... has an agenda of his own when he says and does all that stuff, yes. A kind of sad, helpless one, but he does have reasons and stuff. Mostly it's quite straightforward, but since Jin is a pretty messed up little puppy, it gets complicated anyway. Hopefully it'll become clearer when you get his POV eventually. (Just not quite yet. Would you believe that 13-15 were originally meant to be one chapter? *sigh*)
As for why Yuuya finds some of it okay and Jin doesn't, partly it's that Yuuya is just a better whore. *g* He has fewer hangups than Jin, and he certainly doesn't have the same weird triggers.
Yeah, things just got a whole lot worse. You got that right.
Thank you for commenting! :-)
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Date: 2011-06-10 04:44 am (UTC)pls ... update as soon as u can :P
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I`m curious when Jin will "wake up" ...??.. will he, right?
It`s weird/interesting to see him so passive towards Kame ?!?
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Date: 2011-06-11 07:54 am (UTC)We wouldn't want to give spoilers just how Jin's going to react to Kame next week and whether it counts as 'waking up'. But yeah, things will develop... and hopefully become clearer in time. *g*
Thank you for the feedback!!
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Date: 2011-06-11 08:59 am (UTC)^^
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Date: 2011-06-10 08:27 am (UTC)And the only thing I was thinking when I had finished reading this chapter was "Jin, that's gonna be hell to pay :)"
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Date: 2011-06-11 07:54 am (UTC).
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...okay, it was worth a try. :-)
You may not be wrong about the only thing you were thinking...
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Date: 2011-06-13 04:44 am (UTC)I wanted to SCREAM all along.It was so hot AND tense and I am so confused about it all.... I want thursday to come quickly!!!!
Thanks for yet another wonderful chapter.
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Date: 2011-06-13 03:44 pm (UTC)Glad to hear the chapter left an impression. And it's nice to hear from you again. Sorry about the confusion; bear with us!
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Date: 2011-06-14 04:38 pm (UTC)But I read it already on Thursday XD At night when I came home and was already half asleep. And then on friday I reread it, afraid I could have missed something lol
Unil now that's my favorite chapter! It was confusing as always but not as unsatisfying! Somehow I really liked them here o.o (both!) It felt like a little progress although I'm not sure how yet XD I wish I knew what Jin thought the whole time!! (I bet it was less a progress than Jins... professionalism? XD well or his attempts to be as professional as possible)
I have to say until this fic I was never really fond of reading blowjobs but I love it when Kame degrades Jin as a mouth to fuck lol (I somehow like his whole attitude regarding sex wit Jin... T___T)
I would have loved it if he'd blown Kame off while beeing fucked by Yuya... But oh well. I prefer Akame smut without Yuya more I guess.
Seems like Jin really has some diffiulties in doing his job, ne? While reading the warnings I got a suspicion but... dunno yet. I'm definitely curious as hell!! I want to fastforward time and finally be able to read more than just those tiny bits every week!!! >.<
Kame transformes me into a Sadist TT__TT
I'm ashamed but I could really feel with Kame in this chapter XD I wanted him to dominate Jin and I didn't hate him for beeing angry at Yuya who tried to help Jin XD Somehow I could understand his feelings behind his actions... at least if those really are his feelings lol... I hope they are >.<
I'm so excited because Kame made it a rest x)
Whole night of smut? Oh yes please!! And afterwards some cuddling :BAlthough I felt sorry for Yuya :( Poor him! He really seemed to enjoy being with Kame and I bet it's not a nice feeling to be asked to leave!
I bet Jin feels even more sorry, but for himself haha. Now that Yuya isn't around Kame won't have to behave anymore ne?
Akame acted so strange aroung each other! I'm so excited and I bet for nothing XD
Can't wait for thursday to come!!!!
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Date: 2011-06-15 01:33 pm (UTC)We are pleased you like it. :-)
It was confusing as always but not as unsatisfying! Ha ha you just like the smut, admit it!
I have to say until this fic I was never really fond of reading blowjobs but I love it when Kame degrades Jin as a mouth to fuck lol (I somehow like his whole attitude regarding sex wit Jin... T___T)
You're a sadist. Oh wait, you said that. Yes, you are!
I would have loved it if he'd blown Kame off while beeing fucked by Yuya...
Yeah, Kame would have loved that too, at the time. Jin would not have loved it. You and Kame make a good team. >_>
I'm ashamed but I could really feel with Kame in this chapter XD I wanted him to dominate Jin and I didn't hate him for beeing angry at Yuya who tried to help Jin XD Somehow I could understand his feelings behind his actions...
We're actually quite fascinated by this (and maybe a little relieved because we were/are worried that people will hate Kame). Why did you want him to dominate Jin (if you don't mind telling us)? Is it because Jin is so... random and directionless? Or because he's so helpless and pretty? Or because he's so annoying?
I'm so excited because Kame made it a rest x) Whole night of smut?
Whole night of smut, yes. The neverending night of smut.
I bet Jin feels even more sorry, but for himself haha. Now that Yuya isn't around Kame won't have to behave anymore ne?
That would be an accurate assessment of the situation, yes.
Can't wait for thursday to come!!!!
Tomorrow. We think you'll like it. >_>
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Date: 2011-06-16 05:39 pm (UTC)I admit I like the smut but it was definitely not my favorite smut in this fic :D It was just the foreplay after all! (Please I'm a perv I won't be satisfied by sth like this. It has to be the emotional aspect then. *cough*)
Normally I would feel flattered but I guess that wasn't that much of a compliment XD
It’s more like I disapprove with his attitude XD He frustrates me and I want to smack him hard but I won’t hate him because of it, especially not if this bad attitude is typically human and makes the fic more real.
abysmal depths of human minds fascinate me XDThat's really difficult to explain x__X
Really I tried to answer that since yesterday and wrote a whole word page of amateur psychoanalysis and what not but got to self-conscious to really write that XD And it sounded like those case studies back in psychology class
Btw why are you so surprised and fascinated anyways? Shouldn't you as his authors understand Kames actions the best? XD
Well to answer that question short and goal-oriented, I guess I’m just that much of a possessive, controlling character?
Regarding the reason why I want him to dominate Jin. I think it would be all of your suggestions. Jin just has it in him to infuriate someone with his phlegmatic attitude.
I kinda hoped that if Kame would insist a little more there would be some kind of development XD Like Kame finally being more satisfied with him and not always wishing himself back to Ueda. And on Jins behalf like showing at least some emotion or even a reaction? XD
I just hope for Kame to push Jin open and not only the sexual meaning XD
Because I'm such a low-life or because of the smut?
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Date: 2011-06-17 12:52 pm (UTC)Heee, demanding. Well, we'll get there eventually. We just like to torture you with loooooooong draaaaaaaaaaawn ouuuuuuuuuuuuut foreplay. :p
"we were/are worried that people will hate Kame"
... I want to smack him hard but I won’t hate him because of it, especially not if this bad attitude is typically human and makes the fic more real.
abysmal depths of human minds fascinate me XD
Yay. We are hoping to make him very human, and he's got some 'depths' there, yes. But we also like him so we're glad that there's no hating. :)
"Why did you want him to dominate Jin (if you don't mind telling us)?"
Btw why are you so surprised and fascinated anyways? Shouldn't you as his authors understand Kames actions the best? XD
Ha ha, yes, we feel we understand Kame's actions, but as authors, we are also officially dead (or so says postmodernism)! ;-) We can't control how a reader perceives things, and of course that makes us worry about the bits we can't control, and whether things come across the way we hope they will or the way we need them to, so when somebody gives us an intriguing statement, we want to know more. In this case it was particularly because we were worried, like we said, that readers might be very anti-Kame and not take into account that maybe there's stuff going on with him which explains his need to dominate like that. So when you said this, we were wondering why you were able to empathize with him there, when you might also have chosen to empathize with Jin.
Well to answer that question short and goal-oriented, I guess I’m just that much of a possessive, controlling character?
Ha ha, you can join our club of obsessives then!
I just hope for Kame to push Jin open and not only the sexual meaning XD
:D
"Tomorrow. We think you'll like it. >_>"
Because I'm such a low-life or because of the smut?
Who's the low-life here? We are writing this fucked-up scenario. ;-) Anyway, we thought because of the smut and because Kame continues to control Jin very nicely. We hope we were right.
Thank you for taking the time to explain!